Deli to Occupy West Park Vacancy
Former Rec Commissioner Joe Brand turns to starting a new eatery.
The past few weeks have been eventful for Joe Brand.
Weeks before the head coach of the hockey team at Long Beach High School won his eighth county championship last week, Brand lost his job as commissioner of Long Beach Recreation when the new Democrat administration took charge in January. Now, Brand will once again turn to running an eatery in the middle of town.
The Long Beach City Council granted Brand a waiver of off-street parking requirements Tuesday, effectively giving him a green light to open a deli at the vacancy that once housed a diner.
“It will be a take-out delicatessen business, occupying 44 West Park, which is the old Ocean Park Diner,” Brand told the council at the Feb. 21 meeting.
The deli’s doors will be open daily form 6 a.m. to 5 p.m., Brand said, and he plans to employ locals. “Depending on how busy the store is, anywhere between six and a dozen,” Brand said when council President Fran Adelson asked him the number of employees he would hire.
Brand has experience in the business as the former owner of Zamboni’s Deli, at 250 W. Park Ave., two blocks west of his new establishment. He was unavailable for comment Wednesday morning.
The property owner at 44 W. Park is listed as Angelos Stamatelatos of Baldwin. The owners of Ocean Park Diner, the unit's prior occupants, last year moved a few doors east, where Monterey restaurant once did business, and renamed their establishment Avenue Cafe, which serves breakfast staring at 10 a.m.
Val
10:46 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Cuz yeah, that's what LB needs. ANOTHER place to eat.
Elliot Zuckerman
4:18 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
I just want to let all know that Joe is theone of the finest guys around, he did a first class job with the city and I know he will once again be the deli king.
Best of luck and looking forward to one of your great heros.
Elliot
Surf2live
Bill
11:09 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
I doubt it will be just ANOTHER place to eat considering his success in the past with Zamboni's and what it has become since he sold the business. He brings a lot more personality and feeling of community than our other options currently. It's more than just slicing meat. He has a real relationship with the people he serves, AND he's an actual Long Beach person looking to employ locals!
B bearstein
11:10 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
10 am seems late for breakfast. I get hungry earlier and need food.
mmm
10:17 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
That can't be accurate. I've been there for breakfast before getting on the train for morning rush hour.
anna
11:40 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
we actually do need more delis in Long Beach. I hope he does it high end. The food at Zamboni's is good but the service is so deplorably slow that I can't step foot in there
@B bearstein - the article says it will open at 6 a.m
B bearstein
11:43 am on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
I was referring to ave cafe. Who serves breakfast at 10 am.
Gary
12:19 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
The previous owners put so much work into this place only to give up after a few weeks.
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1:35 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
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Joe Kovolisky
1:40 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Joe started over at Tamborino s in Cederhurst, before opening Zambonies. When he opened the deli it was in the middle of two vacant lots, no draw to get people to come . I have no doubt he will make a success of his new venture, best of luck !
nancy b
1:53 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Good luck Joe! He ran a tight ship over there I am sure he will do it again. Funny cause I saw opens at 10am too!
Lloyd
3:04 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Another take-out joint on Park Ave. Doesn't anybody in Long Beach cook anymore??
So what if Joe B is the best deli owner in town. The only thing that will happen is that a few other eateries will go down the toilet. Good luck to Joe and his many competitors.
Lloyd
3:09 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
We ate dinner at the Avenue Cafe a few Saturdays ago. It was good and has an attractive atmosphere. But judging by the sparse crowd over there, that place may not last much longer. So it makes sense to open even another food joint nearby.
Barbara Fischkin
3:34 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Going to try again... Well it's worth saying twice:
Joe Brand was a great coach and recreation director. He will once again run a great deli. It's all about nurturing. Good coaching. good recreation, good food. As a coach Joe helped our younger son Jack Mulvaney become not only a terrific hockey player but a fine young man. WIth our younger son Dan, who has autism, he presumed competence in a way that should be considered legendary in Long Beach.
Diane Vilagi
3:39 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Once again, I'm baffled by the actions of the Long Beach government. How could they let go of someone like Joe Brand, hard working, efficient and effective and a pleasure to work with. This is a loss for the City of Long Beach. I hope his new business venture is a huge success but I am disappointed that the new administration is continuing the "business as usual" way of running our City. The residents of Long Beach deserve better.
Eddie
4:25 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Way to go Joe! You were wasting your time and talents with the City.
And you're not even asking the new "Office of Economic Development" to foot the bill.
You're my hero! Let me buy your first sandwich!
Richard Boodman
4:39 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
They got better, Diane. Bobby Piazza knows more about how to make Long Beach work than anyone. He's a class act. Bob Piazza's previous record working for the Dems and the Republicans speaks for itself. Even Charles Theofan praised to his abilities as an assistant city manager. Watch his smoke as he makes the Rec a better place for the people of Long Beach.
And watch Joe Brand's smoke once he's open for business. He saw the void left open by the Avenue Cafe when they gave up the early breakfasts. He's a pro and will create a better mousetrap.
Both men are in their natural habitats. They don't need luck to succeed.
Elliot Zuckerman
5:16 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Being I grew up in LB and know both guys I must say I will miss Joe but I know that Bobby will also do a great job, he is also a stand up guy and a plus to the city....
While we are at it surfersway a foundation that takes kids with special needs surfing here in Long Beach has posted the 2012 outing dates on there web site, www.surfersway.org.These are free of charge and a day to remember for the kids and everyone involved.
Billy Boy
5:27 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Good Luck Joe!!! Joe had every right to sit home and collect unemployment but chose to, not only jump right back in, but he is doing it where the residents of Long Beach will benefit. I, for one, will be happy to patronize his establishment.
paul.d.spellman
6:54 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Are you sure he is not collecting unemployment?
Bill Callahan
5:57 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Since Joe took over at the rec it has been run better than it ever has all the programs are well supervised. He did a great job there. I will support his American owned and operated deli
Brian Kupchik
6:54 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
I could definitely use a good deli for a quick bit on the train in and Zamboni's never failed me with their heros. This move is good for me. Politics = stomach ache. Hopefully our hockey team will keep its great momentum going now fueled with better food!
Leonard Bauman
11:19 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Oy Vey, a deli? Like we need another one in town?
If the deli ain't run to kosher standards acceptable to Chabad Lubavitch, it ain't worth going to, so sayeth Rebbe Menachem M. Schneerson the Messiah!
Lloyd
7:16 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
What about Schnirman the Messiah? He gave it his blessing.
Lloyd
7:22 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Dont think its ridiculous, but one day soon all delis in NY will be required to be certified Halal.
Sharia Law will take precedent over State Law. Its happening in Western Europe now.
C Roper
7:56 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
I have a request, Mr Brand... Please offer a comprehensive salad bar. Hard to find a good salad in the East End.
Best of luck...
CP
7:57 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
I can't wait to be a customer in your new deli and give back to you for you dedication to the rec and all our local charities. Thank you for still believing in our community when our gov't has failed you in so many ways.
anna
9:44 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
I'm baffled by the people complaining about "another deli" - we have very few delis on the east end
Lloyd
10:26 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
I didn't know that the middle of town is considered "The East End".
I thought the "East End" is closer to Lido.
Isn't the sectiion by the train station and City Hall "Downtown" or Midtown"?
Live and loyn.
Lloyd
10:30 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
With all you guys waiting outside the door for Joe's Deli to open, it sounds like nobody will be buying fresh salads, sub sandwiches, soups, or cold cuts from Waldbaum's anymore.
Oh well. Another nail goes into their coffin.
john
10:31 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
your almost right its considered central part of town
Lloyd
10:55 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Im no cunning linguist regarding Long Beach jargon. I've only lived here now for all of 13 months.
But it seems to me that people who live on The West End refer to the rest of Long Beach as The East End.
But people like myself, who live near the center of town....Edwards Blvd, dont refer to it as The East End.
My gal, who's lived here for a dozen years, refers to this as The East Side or Near the Center of Town.
The deli will be located more in The Middle East rather than The East End.
maryl
11:37 am on Thursday, February 23, 2012
I just wish that he would have fixed up the Ballybannon, and still have hopes that someone can save it from what its become.
Brendan
1:39 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Why would anyone want to fix up the Ballybannon, it is going to have to compete with Dunkin Donuts and their drive-thru all-night dance party. You know that, don't you maryl?
MeAgain
2:03 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
yes - make sure to check the expiration date on anything you get there
Dee
4:05 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Joe is a stand up guy-he is a hard worker & did a lot for Long Beach.
He & his family deserve NOTHING but the best!
jetsboog
4:42 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
well said debbie and good luck with your new seaside celebration location!!
Frank Haggerty
6:38 pm on Thursday, February 23, 2012
Best of luck joe
MeAgain
7:59 am on Friday, February 24, 2012
Friends and family?
Lloyd
10:42 am on Friday, February 24, 2012
Ya gotta be the ultimate, cockeyed optimist to open a new restaurant or food store in this town.
Living here for over the past 13 months I can count at least 13 eatries that have closed down since Jan. 2011. And that's only counting the "East End". Or as I call it, "Downtown" Long Beach.
Is it the economy?
LIPA?
City real estate taxes?
Politics/variances?
Rents?
Oversaturation?
Poor management skills?
Incompetent or dishonest employees?
Quarreling partners?
Parking and traffic?
Lousy food and service with negative reviews?
What is it?
A funeral parlor stands a better shot here than a new eatery.
west end wombat
2:17 pm on Friday, February 24, 2012
Lloyd you have alot to say for a kook who has only been in lb for a year. You are a real I.K.E. (I Know Everything),you chime in on every subject on the patch, and most of the time its negative, bro if you dont like it here beat it, there are enough a-holes here already. as for joe brand he is a 3rd generation local and a good guy he doesnt need your money so stay out of his deli,go have a salad at waldbaums...hahaha
Lloyd
3:23 pm on Friday, February 24, 2012
Wrong, Wombat. I love it in L.B. and not negative at all. Just made a suggestion like others here that Long Beach is overloaded with restaurants and food places and needs a little more diversification.
Joe B. may be the best guy in town, but I wish he would open up a Dollar Tree instead.
jetsboog
3:41 pm on Friday, February 24, 2012
joe does good deli cant wait .
MeAgain
3:58 pm on Friday, February 24, 2012
3rd generation local + deli = raise red flag
Bill
7:05 pm on Friday, February 24, 2012
I know. It's horrible that a lifelong Long Beach person would like to open a business in HIS town to serve HIS community and employ locals. It raises a huge red flag. What we should be getting behind instead is a dog run/park thingy so some yentas that have lived here for a couple of years can play with their dogs.
Denis G. Kelly
4:21 pm on Friday, February 24, 2012
Joe Brand is a good man and a hard worker. I think its great that Joe is opening a deli in the center of the city. I have no doubt it will be a great success. The only other acceptable delicatessens in the city are Lido Kosher and Lindell -- one east and one west. Another in the middle of city is just what we need.
Lloyd
8:54 pm on Friday, February 24, 2012
Bill. You have me LMAO here.
A bunch of "yentas" in a dog park? Maybe they're just "schmoozing" about some Patch posters they met on-line.
Hey! Dogs need some exercise too.
And I've been pushing for a new Petco in town, where we can buy designer sweaters for our Yorkies that we brazenly strut around on the boardwslk.
Bill
10:15 pm on Friday, February 24, 2012
I like the idea for a Petco. It definitely would fill a void in town and would help the local economy. Unlike the dogpark which would generate no revenue and the upkeep would just be another drain and burden on the taxpayer dime. No value there...When the Petco opens up, I'm buying a sweater with matching sequin collar for my Yorkie. She'll be STUNNING! The girls from by bridge club will be so jealous.
Bill Callahan
11:32 pm on Friday, February 24, 2012
Well said west end, in my opinion if you want to say so much here you have to have spent some time here. As far as joes new deli, I am sure it will be just as successful as his old deli. Support the people in long beach who have roots in long beach. To bad he had to be forced out of his job which he did well
Lloyd
12:29 am on Saturday, February 25, 2012
Bill....No dig iver gere. They're forbidden in this anti-canine co-op I'm now residing. But we do have a cat and a Petco or Pets Supply Plus here in L.B would be great.
And I wish Joe B well. We'll check out his heros and salads as soon as he opens.
Lloyd
1:13 am on Saturday, February 25, 2012
Should be....
No dog over here.
Too tired to type on this tiny touchpad.
LB politics stink
5:43 am on Saturday, February 25, 2012
This guy Lloyd knows nothing . Get a life stay off the computer 24/7
Rob S
8:47 pm on Sunday, February 26, 2012
This thread's a little confusing. There seems to be a few comments about the hours of the restaurant down the block, not about this new deli. Also, the article specifically says this is a take-out deli. For years there was a produce store/deli on the corner at Edwards that did great business, especially with the mobs pouring off the trains in the summer. This one across from the station should do good "morning rush" business, too. Anyway, I think a deli on that block is a good choice. It could even help the Craft & Variety store next door, as well as locals like Tilben, by generating more foot traffic.
Hank
4:17 pm on Monday, February 27, 2012
I guess you have connections to get off-street parking waived. Synergy won't be happy. They've been trying for a year to expand. Guess they're not 3rd gen's.
Lloyd
7:47 pm on Monday, February 27, 2012
For those of youse who say that Joe has no competition in the center of town....I say bologna/baloney!!
Tonight my gal and I ate in a place at 18 E Park that looked like a deli, smelled like a deli, and tasted like a deli. So I guess it IS a deli, and it is called Pantano's.
It has counter service for both take out and for ordering, with tables and seating for about 24 customers.
The variety of hot and cold sandwiches, paninis, soups, and salads are quite extensive and the prices are very reasonable.
Our food order turned out to be ready quickly and it was an excellent meal for us. They even have a giant screen TV to watch while we sat there.
We'll be going back there soon. At those prices and quality it hardly pays to cook.
Good luck to Joe Brand, opening up just one block away.
MeAgain
7:57 pm on Monday, February 27, 2012
A lot of people on the street are saying that Joe's salami is enormous
Rob S
10:43 pm on Monday, February 27, 2012
Lioyd- Time for you to give up on this. Since your experience here is just as a summer tourist, I don't know why you're so down on this deli before it even opens. Glad you liked Pantano's, but it is part of a small chain on Long Island. The original article noted that the new deli will be a take-out place. So, you continue to make these off-base comparisons. As for what a deli is, Pantano's describes their stores as "restaurants." Your catchy "...why cook?" is printed right on the Pantano's menu. BTW, Pantano's location in Long Beach is pretty new. So I hope you're wrong in your previous comment, "A funeral parlor stands a better shot here than a new eatery."
Lloyd
11:54 pm on Monday, February 27, 2012
Hey Rob!
I would describe Pantano's as more of a take out place and deli than a restaurant. You can eat there, but its more suitable for a a quick lunch than a romantic Saturday evening dinner.
And from the sparse crowd there and at many of the other neighboring eateries,I just cant see how this town can support another food joint in that vicinity....which is overloaded already.
And Rob...dont tell my gal that I'm just a "summer tourist". I dont want her to throw me and my cat out on the street after14 beautiful months together here.
jetsboog
8:36 am on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
pantano's will be gone in a year
Lloyd
9:23 am on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
Not because of quality, but because of oversaturation.
Why do you think theres so much turnover in that area?
Mulberry Street is gone, and if you go to Trip Advisor.com, it got 5 Star rave reviews.
Makes ya wonder.
Lloyd
10:44 am on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
We're at The Dunes Deli now to.pick up a few soft drinks for yhe day. There are two signs up....Store For Rent and Building For Sale at their resfaurant next door.
That place changes hands continually, and they have ZERO compeetition out there.
Eddie
10:59 am on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
They also have a $4000 per MONTH tax bill. Your Dr. Pepper doesn't make a dent in that.
Lloyd
12:39 pm on Tuesday, February 28, 2012
Why are their taxes so high in Lido?
Marvel Ice Cream seems to be doing fine in a very seasonal business.
My gal, who went into the deli to buy the diet iced tea, thinks that their big problem is very limited parking. I stayed out in the car so I could keep posting here. I didnt notice the parking problem. Was too concerned about whether the Loop Pkwy drawbridge was up or down.
Lloyd
11:32 am on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
Anybody excited about opening a quality Chinese buffet restaurant on Park Ave?
I know I would be there every night.
Bill
2:28 pm on Monday, March 5, 2012
Congrats to Joe, his sons and the rest of the Long Beach High School hockey team for winning the State Championship yesterday! You'd think this would be front and center on today's Patch headlines.
jetsboog
2:33 pm on Monday, March 5, 2012
good shout bill! was at the game saturday night and heard they played fantastic both yesterday morning and evening!