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FEMA Hit with Storm of Post-Sandy Questions

Long Beach residents seek answers at agency's informational forum at City Hall.

A storm-damaged home in the West End of Long Beach sends a message about bureaucratic setbacks many residents say they are facing. (Credit: Joseph Kellard)
A storm-damaged home in the West End of Long Beach sends a message about bureaucratic setbacks many residents say they are facing. (Credit: Joseph Kellard)
 
Hundreds of residents attended an informational forum the Federal Emergency Management Agency hosted at Long Beach City Hall on Wednesday, when two dozen people hit FEMA officials with questions on many subjects, including post-Hurricane Sandy reductions in rates for labor and materials for rebuilding, the application process for Small Business Administration loans, and a federal rule prohibiting a landlord from challenging the depreciation of his two-family home.  

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Most inquires, though, centered on insurance payouts on premiums, or lack thereof, and two FEMA programs: Increased Cost of Compliance (ICC) and Hazard Mitigation (HM). Scott Kemins, the city’s building commissioner, joined the FEMA officials in who tried to provide answers to the hurricane-weary community.  

While the city awaits state approval for Hazard Mitigation and several hundred residents are already on a list for the program that would provide them funds for mitigation their storm-damaged properties, others asked when funds will be available. One woman said she called the state Office of Emergency Management, which manages HM, and was told that there are three project managers that review all state-wide applications for the program who have not even completed applications for storms prior to Hurricane Irene in August 2011.   

“When I pressed her for a timeline, and we were talking about actually seeing money, she said we’re looking at probably another three years,” the woman said of her talks with an Office of Emergency Management official. She asked FEMA officials if the agency could pressure the state to hire more project managers.

Philip Parr, FEMA’s deputy federal coordinating officer who led Wednesday’s meeting, indicated that it could take a year from the time of the hurricane before funds are made available through HM. “The local communities and FEMA are expediting that process as quickly as possible,” Parr said. “I can’t tell you that that funding will be available in six days, six weeks or six months.”

FEMA’s ICC program provides individual homeowners $31,900 to cover costs of mitigation to reduce flood risk only at primary homes that local inspectors have deemed “substantially damage.” A mitigation measure is to raise the height of a house according to FEMA regulations for new building or rebuilding in designated flood zones like Long Beach.

Walks resident Bob Reed asked if homeowners could use ICC and HM funds to build a new home, rather than merely raise the existing structure. Greg Coulson, a FEMA floodplain management task force leader, said HM grants normally require a 25 percent match, and ICC funds, made available through a homeowner’s flood insurance policy, could be used as part of that match.

“But you have to wait until the state has established the priorities and fleshed out the programs, and there’s going to be a delay in that,” Coulson said.  

Another homeowner inquired about the zoning or buildings codes FEMA uses for its height mandates. “With the competing jurisdictions, you run into New York State building code, maybe Nassau [County], maybe [the City of] Long Beach, and which one takes precedence to comply to take advantage of the program that FEMA is supplying,” he said.

Kemins explained that the National Flood Insurance Program, which mandates these regulations, requires that first-floor elevations must comply with what flood insurance maps dictate for a particular area. He explained that Long Beach is comprised of different zones, NFIP rate maps puts city’s houses anywhere from eight to 18 feet above sea level, and the state requires an additional two feet of elevation.

Reed asked that if homeowners rebuild according to FEMA’s guidelines, is it possible those guidelines might change and thereby render newly elevated homes below code. Coulson said that it is possible because there are numerous elements that impact flood maps, the 25-year-old data of which he suggested is outdated and subject to change.  

Kemins noted that homeowners aren’t obligated to elevate their houses if they aren’t deemed substantially damaged, but the building commissioner cautioned that they still must consider the financial implications of flood insurance down the road. 

“In five years, if your house is four feet below the required base-flood elevations of the current map, your flood insurance is going to be in excess of $9,000 a year,” he warned. 

Coulson said flood insurance would reflect actuarial costs. “For people who are below the base flood elevation it will cost significantly more than it has in the past,” he said.

One man asked about building a seawall in Long Beach, as a way of possibly reducing such costs. "I'm just anticipating that we're going to be crushed with these new premiums that we’re going to get stuck with the flood insurance," he said. “It’s going to make the houses unaffordable for a lot of our people and it’s going to impact substantially our resale value.”

Another resident asked about if and when insurance companies are required to start paying out policies, a question she said she contacted several levels of government for an answer but to no avail. Diana Kidder, FEMA’s HM insurance task force leader, said that companies have 60 days to pay out policies, but she was unaware of any timetable requirement.

“There’s no accountability,” the resident countered.  

The forum’s two-hour question and answer session was followed by a breakout period in which FEMA officials talked further with residents, but not before they received both criticism and praise.

One resident told FEMA officials he was frustrated, “because I don’t think you have the answers,” he said, as the Q&A neared conclusion. But James Hodge, chairman of the Board of Directors at the city’s Martin Luther King Center, thanked them for the forum and more.

“I’d like to thank all of the FEMA people that are here from all over the country that have been working day in and day out and working tirelessly,” he said. 

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Leonard Bauman May 24, 2013 at 08:15 pm
FEMA and City of Long Beach are not bigots or racists, they are IDIOTS. Idiots are stupidRead More ignoramouses that are robbing and shortchanging all of us, while they enrich themselves at the taxpayer's expense. So, the HDTV you want FEMA to pay for is money in a FEMA adjuster's pocket. No TV for you and money for them, racism no, thievery yes!
Tonya Karrakas May 24, 2013 at 08:14 pm
First off , the City of Long Beach does not control FEMA. If you feel FEMA has wronged you in aRead More discriminatory way , file a suit against FEMA not the City. I think how everyone pitch in to help rebuild the MLK center shows proof that the community is unbiased when help is needed. The bigotry is when assumptions are made as to why one person received, while another waits. There are plenty of families from all different backgrounds in Long Beach still waiting for financial assistance from FEMA.
Leonard Bauman May 24, 2013 at 03:46 pm
The fencing is needed to collect $12 beach fares, otherwise who will pay to go on the beach if theRead More beach is free if you walk on, if there was no fence? Why pay for the beach, if there is no fence?
Eddie May 24, 2013 at 08:06 pm
Thank you for sharing that.
Nancy Waters Rossetti May 24, 2013 at 03:25 pm
Terrible
Tideline May 24, 2013 at 03:00 pm
Have you contacted Harvey Weisenberg or Denise Ford to get involved ? Even though there is no photoRead More op, they may help out.
Leonard Bauman May 24, 2013 at 01:40 pm
Long Beach does not need an economic development corp. Small business people already know theseRead More entities are patronage salary mills that do not help them similar to SBA disaster assistance loans or FEMA assistance for small business. Small businesses know where to get help and do not need to pay higher taxes for an entity that offers lip service and no financial help, or financial help only to Democrat party donator patrons.
Eddie May 24, 2013 at 08:05 pm
The system is for "emergency notification". Not "update calls". If I want anRead More update I will pick up my phone and call them.
Tina Bayer-Hummel May 24, 2013 at 07:12 pm
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Tina Bayer-Hummel May 24, 2013 at 07:12 pm
I did think it was a political message as much as it was a information update call. Long beach isRead More still in recovery and not everyone knows the status of the town.
Charlie K May 24, 2013 at 04:25 pm
Thank you Leonard for pointing it out to me. They can't even come up with a slogan of their own.
Leonard Bauman May 24, 2013 at 03:45 pm
Actually the stole that slogan from FEMA, which has been touting this slogan since Hurricane KatrinaRead More in 2005.
Charlie K May 24, 2013 at 03:38 pm
I also want to add send a message to Jack and the city council. When you use the phrase "Read More STONGER, SMARTER, SAFER" you sound like robots repeating the same stupid line every time a microphone is placed in front of you.
Leonard Bauman May 24, 2013 at 01:20 pm
Why not book at the Long Beach Hotel, call the operator to get the phone number. The new Long BeachRead More Hotel is luxurious and only $149 a night centrally located in Long Beach's wealthy and well to do and uppity East End.
john peri Jr May 23, 2013 at 04:48 pm
TRIVIA: Joseph Carlino, former Speaker of the NY State Assembly, gave a speech on the 5thRead More Amendment at my high school graduation. His father was the Republican leader in Long Beach.
Patrick Smith May 23, 2013 at 04:38 pm
She will be questioned by kid gloved committee , and a back room deal will be made .Repukes get whatRead More they want and obama will fire her with a golden parachute ,end of story.This is America
Tideline May 23, 2013 at 12:04 pm
She also is still collecting a big paycheck for a job that she took the 5th on and would not answerRead More any questions. She should be immediately suspended without pay. She won't she is protected by the Obama umbrella. I predict she will be recalled, since she made a statement and that negated her 5th protections. When she refuses again next time, she should be found in contempt of Congress.
andy napolitano May 24, 2013 at 04:08 pm
I am hoping LB Humane Society can step-in for those in Long Beach that need assistance with theirRead More animals. They will be moving to new location early-June. It will across the street (Austin Blvd.) from the Lazy Cow/Dairy Barn...not too far from Ralph's Ices. Now it will be easier for the peole of Long Beach to bring their animals there & not use The LB Shelter.
andy napolitano May 24, 2013 at 10:27 am
Long Beach never even put the shelter up for bidding! I'm sure there were other groups that may haveRead More been interested in running the shelter but when the contract ran out they just resigned without putting it out there for anyone else to see.
Leonard Bauman May 23, 2013 at 09:27 pm
The victims are the poor defenseless cats and dogs in that shelter that Rescue Ink was using asRead More donation pawns, giving the cats and dogs scrimps while spending the large spoils on their own selfish selves. Why can't the North Shore Animal League take over the shelter and make it a second adoption site to complement their location in Port Washington?
Patrick Smith May 23, 2013 at 04:42 pm
This is economic cleansing by vulture capitalists ,Agenda 21 moving as planned
Tideline May 23, 2013 at 07:45 am
I spoke with the construction mgr who told me that the entire bsmt, 1 st flr were flooded and 2 feetRead More of water onto the second floor. Foundation is sound, that is why they will be moving back in within 60 days. As bad as the damage looks, their financial picture seems even worse. Construction mgr did not seem to care about the owners situation, just finishing the work.
sun&sand May 23, 2013 at 07:05 am
The water flooded the first floor of apts. I am not sure if the entire foundation is sound--theRead More building was built on sand and several of the pilings might have to be reinforced. The 2nd floor and above was not flooded. The building sits on sand and is wide open to the elements. The people I know have been paying their maintenance charges which included RE taxes. However, the need for more money to fix everything is more than they have on hand.
Me May 22, 2013 at 10:46 am
Might actually be cheaper to buy a used RV. It doesn't need to really run or drive well. You canRead More find them on craigslist for as little as $1,000 dollars. Even if you change aout all matresses, clean up etc you could be all in for only the cost of a month or two rent. Then you can re-sell, donate to charity or give it away free when done and no problem if construction runs long you own it.
john peri Jr May 22, 2013 at 02:07 pm
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Patrick Smith May 22, 2013 at 10:49 am
could you elaborate a bit please
andy napolitano May 23, 2013 at 03:34 pm
Just speculating that Schumer is buddies with Joe Panzarella & the shelter got finished whileRead More other places are still waiting. People can take what they want from that comment but it looks fishy.
AEA President May 23, 2013 at 09:40 am
what does this have to do with the shelter?
andy napolitano May 23, 2013 at 08:26 am
Yeah I've seen all the pictures of Joe "Panz" Panzarella with Chuck Schumer. Rescue InkRead More gets their shelter back but so many other things that are more important are still not up & running. The few animals that Rescue Ink had were in a safe warehouse so there was no real hurry to move them back to the building the shelter is in but they're back. "Politics make strange bedfellows" isn't that the saying? Chuck & Joe. Makes ya wanna go Hmmmmmmmm!!!!!!
Eddie May 22, 2013 at 10:52 am
Your bill of sale on Craigslist says the door is Fiberglas, not "clear pine".
Tony D May 24, 2013 at 06:05 pm
Seaside heights NJ, boardwalk opens today 5 miles long ! Ribbon cutting and all, gov chistie shouldRead More see Long beach . 2.5 miles no boardwalk but the city today has fences up and ticket booths in place so they could collect money to get on the beach. What about the people who use just walk the boardwalk? I wouldn't doubt they charge for walking on the boardwalk next year! That's if it's DONE, LMAO new York state the vampire state!
Erica May 23, 2013 at 01:51 am
What about the foot bridges to just get in the beach in the west end? And the people still out ofRead More their homes? And the phoney letters claiming outrageous percentages of damage (proven to be untrue) to get us to raise the houses for how many thousands to be reassessed higher taxes?
Eddie May 22, 2013 at 09:21 pm
Asbury Park = Democrats. Freeport = Democrats Rockaway = Democrats Long Beach = Democrats.
paul.d.spellman May 21, 2013 at 10:56 am
If you have an alarm system, you need to pay the city fee. They hired an outside company to manageRead More the payments so now the fee is expected to be collected.
Leonard Bauman May 21, 2013 at 07:33 pm
I have heard 3 stories: the movie theatre owner had no flood insurance and will need to find $$ toRead More rebuild, no $$ so far; the theatre will be razed and will become home to 4 stores, the movie theatre will be renovated into a world class theatre with surround sound and ticket prices of $2 for children and $4 for adults except after 4PM.
IRISH 4 May 21, 2013 at 10:41 am
I cant believe all the shore towns with boardwalks up and running & Lb hasnt even started .SoRead More much for we are different and are building a better one,Well the first one lasted many years so just upgrade and get finished.& months later and not even a board in & still making excuses AND 4XS THE COST ....WOW WHAT A BARGAIN .
Paul Carrella May 21, 2013 at 09:34 am
Great news. Keep going, build it fast.