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Boardwalk Talk Kicks Off at Senior Center

Sustainable Long Island facilities first meeting of focus groups.

Amy Engel, executive director of Sustainable Long Island, conducted the first in a series of community focus groups to discuss redesign of the Long Beach boardwalk on Wednesday at Magnolia Senior Center. (Credit: Joseph Kellard)
Amy Engel, executive director of Sustainable Long Island, conducted the first in a series of community focus groups to discuss redesign of the Long Beach boardwalk on Wednesday at Magnolia Senior Center. (Credit: Joseph Kellard)
Long Beach residents gathered Wednesday evening to answer questions and discuss ideas about the reconstruction of the Hurricane Sandy-battered boardwalk at the Magnolia Senior Center. 

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Amy Engel, executive director of Sustainable Long Island, conducted the first in a series of community focus groups tol discuss redesign of the seaside walkway.

The inaugural meeting involved about 100 residents who live between the east side of Grand Boulevard and the west side of Long Beach Boulevard to give their input. They were broken up into groups who sat around separate tables and answered prepared questions. Each individual resident was asked to take a few minutes to answer the following questions:
  • “Ten years from now, the boardwalk will ___ to/for Long Beach (word or phrase).”
  • “What is the most important issue facing the future of the boardwalk.”

The second exercise included three questions that the residents were asked to answer as a group:
  • “Last summer I used to __ on/at the boardwalk.”
  • “Three things you appreciated about the boardwalk.”
  • “Three things you wish were better about the boardwalk.”
Engel, who described Sustainable Long Island as a not-for-profit that was established in 1998, said that the organization regards itself as the facilitator of the discussions. She said that the city would take their input into consideration for the design of the new boardwalk.

“It wouldn’t be good policy making,” Engel said of any decision to not solicit community input.

Engel said that the city was moving quickly on this project “because the boardwalk is an economic driver. … It’s so critical to everybody.”

The other two focus group meetings will be held at Magnolia Senior Center, at 650 Magnolia Blvd., from 6 to 8 p.m. on the following dates:
  • Feb. 11 (focusing on residents living between Nevada Boulevard and the west side of Grand Boulevard)
  • Feb. 13 (focusing on residents living between Maple Boulevard and the east side of Long Beach Boulevard)
The city posted an announcement about the focus groups and online surveys about boardwalk redesign on its website last week, when a newly created website, LongBeachListens.com, went live to gather community feedback. There, residents and business owners are asked to fill out separate surveys.

The city will hold a citywide meeting at City Hall from 6 to 8 p.m. Feb. 20, when officials will present the findings from the focus groups and online surveys.
cabbage patch kid February 08, 2013 at 10:30 AM
I'm being sarcastic. I'm just disgusted at some of the comments I have read and the direction this town is going in. I can't get back into lb with my family because credit checks and my shaky credit. It's sad
Ocean Gypsy February 08, 2013 at 10:38 AM
i am sorry to hear that cpk...i am trying to get back into lb myself. i rented an illegal apt (like many others) my landlord refused to acknowledge a landlord/tenant relationship (no lease, cash rent and no receipts) so i could not receive rental assistance from FEMA. Am in the midst of a litigation with FEMA. I learned my lesson. But so will my landlord. I reported her to the city and will be signing an affidavit on Monday so I can submit to FEMA.
cabbage patch kid February 08, 2013 at 10:53 AM
Good luck! I know there are a lot of people in tuff spots right now, your not alone, landlords should ease restrictions on tenants trying to get back in. My kids are devastated there asking me every day when are we going back
John February 08, 2013 at 10:56 AM
keep going, Ty. you further discredit yourself with every word you type.
Ocean Gypsy February 08, 2013 at 11:04 AM
take a gander at this article...since the tear down of the boardwalk, i have not seen any work being done. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/08/nyregion/for-restorers-of-rockaway-beach-summer-is-almost-here.html?nl=nyregion&emc=edit_ur_20130208&_r=0
lori February 08, 2013 at 11:05 AM
One thing I would NOT like to see is Greek fest, they were thrown out of jones beach and have been polluting our beaches and disrupting our quality of life since. And if the city wants to allow this then they should get a day permit and be held responsible for cleanup and police control.
Ocean Gypsy February 08, 2013 at 11:14 AM
Ty...what does a place on the beach have to do with anything? Many people come to Long Beach from out of the area...Point invalid. I was lucky. I had a driveway to use so hence i did not steal a parking spot and I shopped & dined local all the time. I and many others supported Long Beach businesses even though many of our apartments were illegal.
Eddie February 08, 2013 at 01:33 PM
Let's see Gypsy, it looks like you want your cake and eat it too. You rented an illegal apartment because you didn't want to pay the cost of a legal one. Now it floods, and you want the benefits of a legal rental. Beware of who you turn in. A report of an illegal rental to some agencies will get you an IRS audit.
Elliot Zuckerman February 08, 2013 at 02:42 PM
ok lets see now our city has hired an engineering firm to come up with a solution, what is their input? as I posted before what is the plan?when will the new boardwalk be built and is anyone in power saying anything? Just build the boardwalk and lets move on, the city cannot afford to lose a summer without the boardwalk so anyone have an estimated date of completion ? I would bet a surfing lesson that it will not be this summer and if so how will the city be prepared to charge to use the beach. Is the sand clean enough for parents to let their kids go onto the beach. So many questions and zero answers, anyone ?????
Eddie February 08, 2013 at 03:07 PM
Don't expect answers from the City. The City Council has distanced themselves from the issue. They no longer permit questions to be asked at the Good and Welfare portions of the Council meetings, nor will they answer questions from residents on the record. They have offed the boardwalk design debate on a radical private environmental group and that group is shaping the debate away from the practical and into the realm of absurd. A real bunch of misfits, you elected.
Ocean Gypsy February 08, 2013 at 04:03 PM
Eddie, are you an attorney or an accountant? My salary is taxed and i pay out every year, so explain how I will get audited? i had no choice at the time. Unless you walk in my shoes, do not judge and calculate the who, what, where, why and hows.
Ocean Gypsy February 08, 2013 at 04:04 PM
Any agency can audit all they want. My records are clean. The one who should be audited is my former landlord.
Eddie February 08, 2013 at 04:49 PM
So your landlord was fine as long as you were getting a cheap apartment illegally. Now that you're not getting something from him, he should be locked up. Another pathetic entitlement wench.
Ocean Gypsy February 08, 2013 at 05:00 PM
cheap apartment? same price as any standard one bedroom in the area...and i paid extra for premium channels...anything else you need to know? and that is the case for several folk just like me who work full time, pay taxes, and are responsible citizens and vote!
Eddie February 08, 2013 at 05:19 PM
Conspiring with a landlord to commit property tax fraud and income tax fraud is far from responsible. You don't seem to get it. By renting an apartment you know was illegal, you are guilty of several crimes. Hello? Guess you vote for whoever promises you the most stuff, right?
Ocean Gypsy February 08, 2013 at 05:33 PM
as topo gigio used to say........good night, eddie....don't break a leg on the ice tonight
Eddie February 08, 2013 at 05:39 PM
And if you write on Patch about it, you should get a month in jail and four points on your license.
V. P. R. February 08, 2013 at 06:18 PM
Who cares about illegal renters !!!!
V. P. R. February 08, 2013 at 06:20 PM
Just build a new boardwalk !!! And you clowns are fighting about illegal renters
Longbeacher February 09, 2013 at 10:12 PM
i love all the MEETINGS about the board walk and what needs to be done .there not building out of cement ,there not using teak,SO ,the only thing will be what size boards they will use .. 2x4 that we had ,2x8 that would work or 2x12 that would be the best ,,,so why don't they just decide and stop all the BS and fake meetings
Howie February 10, 2013 at 12:20 AM
Focus groups, puullleeaase! Just a ploy to placate the masses. In the end they will do what they want or what is mandated from the Feds for receiving funds. Eddie, "conspiring with a landlord to commit property tax and income tax fraud. This is a bit of a stretch. Besides who is the party doing the profiteering.
Eddie February 10, 2013 at 09:31 AM
When a landlord is reported to the IRS for an illegal rental, the examiners also go after the tenant. That is the procedure. The government's feeling is that the tenant received some consideration, or he would not have opted to rent a legal apartment. Therefore both the landlord and the tenant profited from the fraud. It is assumed that the profit from the tax fraud was shared. No stretch. That's how it works.
Howie February 10, 2013 at 10:01 AM
Maybe this is the process with illegal apts. I never heard in all my days of the IRS enforcement. If fact only on rare occasions have I heard of the city or any other town enforce laws regarding illegal apts. If they did it would already add to the housing crisis. The IRS has other priorities and is looking for bigger fish to fry.
Elliot Zuckerman February 10, 2013 at 01:07 PM
And to think this was about the boardwalk meetings, our leaders know exactly what they will be doing after all who better to take care of the issue but our leaders. Look on the bright side, we all will be able to enjoy the new boardwalk very soon, it will be perfect and everyone will be so happy, the plan to rebuild is going to be done, when I could not tell you but I am sure that it will be just what you all asked for, I did hear a rumor that there will be toll gates to every entrance and strictly enforced, but long beach residents will be able to purchase yearly passes at a discounted price say $1000 per family member and extra for bikes, come on all I am only joking. To be honest all I want to know is when it will be built, if we could only know that, has anyone asked that. silly as it may sound we should have a time frame. I know how stupid of me thinking this.....
Howie February 10, 2013 at 03:48 PM
I have heard the B-walk will be ready for the season starting Memorial Day week end. This is the goal and may be wishful thinking. The weather has to be a cooperative partner and the construction companies have no control over mother nature. Adverse weather conditions can and will delay the project. Seeing is believing.
Eddie February 10, 2013 at 05:43 PM
If you think the weather can seriously delay the redecking of the boardwalk, someone is feeding you misinformation. You should ask why they would want to tell you untruths. Perhaps a blizzard would cause them to lose a couple of days, but otherwise work like that can go on rain or shine 24/7.
Elliot Zuckerman February 11, 2013 at 07:01 AM
Does anyone know a true date, summer but this year?
Charlie K February 11, 2013 at 09:22 AM
As residents we know how a completed boardwalk by Memorial would give us hope of thing returning to normal. The problem is the elected officials don't seem to have the same agenda. If you take parts of the Jersey Shore and follow the rebuilding of their boardwalks they are months ahead of us. They already rebuilding with men on their knees hammering a new boardwalk together, while we hold town meetings for the average citizen who has no clue except to say they don't want wood. The boards were taken down on New York ave three weeks ago, a plans should have been in place to start rebuilding that day. It's now February and this week there will be more meeting with residents. And then a council meeting to discuss the findings. You hired a company to mange the rebuilding of the boardwalk. Hopefully there was a stipulation in the contract that says it must be up by Memorial Day it's over 100 days now since hurricane sandy, it's time for the rebuilding to start, it will be march 1st before you know it and I just do t see any progress anytime soon. Start the rebuilding now and cut the 10 point plan Dow to a two point plan. 1 START. 2. Completed
Charlie K February 11, 2013 at 09:30 AM
I just read in the Long Beach Herald that only sections of the boardwalk will be completed by Memorial Day. If the first section to be rebuilt starts on Edwards there should an uproar, this year the boardwalk is for the residents not the tourists. Start the rebuilding on New York avenue and Neptune Ave and finish joining the two on Edwards. Hopefully by Memorial Day.
V. P. R. February 11, 2013 at 11:27 AM
Get Real !!!!! Being that its mid - Feb !!!! Do you really think the Boardwalk will be complete by Memorial Day !! It took almost 4 months just to get rid of the old boardwalk ** They are just blowing smoke up your REAR END !! You can almost bet that the only part completed by Memorial Day , will be from National Blvd --to-- Long Beach Road ! !!! Hey !! How about extending the Boardwalk from Pacific to Nevada ??? hahahaha ! Smoke !! Evereyone in this town would be surprised if they did finish it by memorial day ! Good Luck !! I hope they do !!

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