Three Duck Hunters Rescued Near Pt. Lookout

Three duck hunters were resuced from Seadog Creek (A), near Point Lookout on Wednesday. (Credit: Google Maps)
Three duck hunters were resuced from Seadog Creek (A), near Point Lookout on Wednesday. (Credit: Google Maps)

Three duck hunters were rescued from waters and marsh land north of the barrier island on Christmas Day.

According to Nassau County Police Department, police received a 911 call at about 5 p.m. Wednesday for a water emergency involving three duck hunters at Seadog Creek, near Point Lookout and Loop Parkway.

The Town of Hempstead Bay Constable, U. S. Coast Guard, and county Marine and Air Bureau responded to the location to conduct a search for the hunters. The constables located a disabled vessel with two victims, ages 39 and 55, still on board, and towed the vessel to West Marina in Lido Beach.

A county helicopter continued to search the area and located the third victim, age 40, stranded in the marsh. The helicopter was able to land on the marsh and rescue the victim. There were no injuries reported.

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moe December 26, 2013 at 02:05 PM
Mark wake up, put an armed civilian in any of the situations you mentioned and the outcomes would have been much different. Get out of your anti gun delusion and read up that CCW and gun ownership are what leads to lower crime and safer communities. The problem with you anti gun loons is that you never look at the other side or do the research to see that your argument is solely based on emotion and not in facts.
Mark December 26, 2013 at 02:11 PM
Does the 330,000 private citizens include Thomas Keyes and Philoman Smith, those two beauties from Mondays Patch who are free on $7500. bail after robbery while displaying a firearm. Maybe the judge is one of the 330,000 and sympathized with their plight. Eddie and That's interesting are correct. I am a staunch anti-gun advocate because I see no rationale why non-military or non-law enforcement citizens should be able to own anything more than a hunting rifle if that is your area of interest. There is nothing that anyone can say, statistically or otherwise that justifies a private citizen owning an assault rifle, AK47, Uzi,etc. I think it is insanity, but that is just my opinion.
Jack December 26, 2013 at 04:02 PM
The masacres Mark the putz mentions involved mentally ill people medicated with psycotropic drugs that the educational and pharma industires have peddled to kids because liberals believe that rambunctious boys should be sedated. Why haven't there been any girl perpetrators of mass shootings? Is it it maybe a longtime conspiracy to emasculate boys by the lesbian/metrosexual educational establishment?
Mark December 26, 2013 at 04:31 PM
You said it Jack, perhaps you should have said EDUCATED instead of educational. Anyway, HAPPY HOLIDAYS. Mark the putz. LOL
moe December 26, 2013 at 04:35 PM
Oh Mark, phi land tom are illegal gun owners and have nothing todo with us legal and law abiding gun owners who are exercising our 2nd amendment as well as God given right to self defense. And yes those rights include the ownership of an AK or M16. If you knew anything about guns which it is painfully obvious that you do not, you would know that those platforms are the most effective which is why they are used by all armies and police forces. So if that's what they are using to protect themselves then that is what I am using for myself. Remember what every one of my law enforcement family members and Friends have told me, the police will never be there when you need them and your personal safety and well being is solely your responsibility and no one else's. Even the Supreme Court has said that is the case.
moe December 26, 2013 at 04:43 PM
And that's case is Warren V. DC which absolved all Law enforcement from a duty to protect individuals. Mark you and the rest of your ilk need to get more educated on the government you live under perhaps you will then realize what they rest of us Republican conservative types are talking about.
Lobster December 26, 2013 at 05:04 PM
Geeze, I thought this article was about duck hunters stuck and needed to be rescued
Jack December 26, 2013 at 06:37 PM
Mark is actual Marx because like all communists he believes the 2nd Amendment and the 1st Amendment should be banned in the US except of course if you are a member of the Party then you are treated differently. Right Karl Marx?
Eddie December 26, 2013 at 07:13 PM
Mark, you are certainly entitled to your opinion. Luckily for my family and me, your opinion is not the law. You are a very optimistic fellow to trust your cell phone to protect your wife and kids. Good luck. I'm glad America doesn't force me to do the same.
Jack December 26, 2013 at 09:17 PM
If you remember cell phones didn't work for along time after Sandy and landlines were down- it was every man for themselves except in Marx's case, every woman for themselves. It was the reputation of the hardworking, God fearing ,trust but verify, reputation of most Long Beacher's that preserved the security of the community.
moe December 27, 2013 at 04:48 AM
@eddie- I know I can trust your facts, but could you please publish the source of your info on gun ownership in Nassau? I find that number amazing, and I'd really love to study the demographics of how we compare with other counties. I find that fascinating, and with relatively few gun crimes here, reinforces what good stuff New Yorkers are made of. At first I thought we might have a lot of gun permit holders because we have a lot of active and retired NYPD around here, but no way that accounts for 330,000. This whole thread of comments includes some questions I've been trying to resolve in my own mind. First, I hope these goofball duck hunters who got stranded within wading distance of the Loop- I sure hope they had to pay in to part of the rescue of them and their boat. They obviously skipped that day at the Coast Guard Boating Safety course. This makes me worry about effective gun training, which I think should be a part of gun ownership. We can send people to classes, but how can we know what they really absorb, or if they enjoy shooting when drunk, etc. As a frequent pedestrian, I know what a deadly weapon a car can be. We make a token effort to train drivers before their first license, but after that they're basically on their own. In the most cases, we don't require vision checks, sanity checks- etc. That would be impossible and inappropriate. The only ongoing "education" is punishment after a driver commits a crime, drives drunk, or kills someone. This wasn't so crucial 50 years ago when their were fewer drivers, using more local roads, driving 35 mph in steel cars, and without "multitasking" as they drive. And Jack's point about medications is important, so many people are taking legal drugs, where even something innocent for blood pressure can effect your performance. Our safety efforts are outdated now, as millions drive giant SUVs on the LIE 70 mph in bumper to bumper speedways. Our regulation of drivers and driving is outdated now. 50 years ago, there were no SUVs, few giant vehicles at all, except those used by trained, licensed drivers. Likewise, 50 years ago there were no AK-47s, few automatic weapons at all, except in the hands of those trained to use them, with a reason to have them. Don't get me wrong, I'd rather have my leg shot with a 22 than run over by an SUV. But we have to figure out how to keep our modern society safe. I don't know the answer. I've also been reading many points about hunting. I don't consider hunting a sport, though I understand why people do. But we have a unique problem out east with deer. Deer are certainly one of the "cutest" and innocent looking of animals. Unfortunately, us humans in America changed the ecology of virtually all our animals. We killed off almost all the predators. We made relatively defenseless animals like deer safe, and explode in population- more so as we feed them with tasty garden plants. Their number out east has to be reduced. It's dangerous, and the "natural death" of the deer will not be kind. It's against my spirit, but it seems being shot by skilled hunters would be safe and humane. Years ago in one of these "cullings" I think I remember the meat being used to feed the hungry. To me this seems like us taking our place in nature, trying to tend "God's garden" even though we've messed it up so much already. This kind of hunting - for a purpose - is much different to me than killing an animal just to hang his horns on a wall. I can understand the purpose of guns in a case like this. But anyone who uses a gun to defend his pride or ego, for hatred or malice or theft, or just to demonstrate his strength, should never be allowed to touch a gun again. Like I said, I haven't come to any conclusions about these issues, but reading everyone's thoughts has helped. I think it's a compliment to our community that we discuss such deep issues in our little "local paper." Bob
moe December 27, 2013 at 08:27 AM
Moe, we live in a free society and one of the things that comes along with that is the need for a great deal of trust in your neighbor (in the pejorative of course). But when certain members of the society have their opinions tainted by the actions of a minority of "bad people" which is then projected onto a larger group then we have issues. As for the source of Eddie's info those links are long gone as they were a simple road map to where criminals could go "shopping" for guns. You cab try to get it via FOIl and I wish you luck. Your points about medicationis well taken but a very slippery slope as is the subject of mental health. These are hard questions that out poltical class refuses to engage in since it is too hard. Tjeyd just preferr to pass do nothing feel good legislation that will accomplish nothing.
J R December 27, 2013 at 08:39 AM
Interesting discussion. While I have enjoyed sporting clays with my kids out at Yaphank on occasion, I do not own a weapon. Yet I took great comfort in the retired NYPD and NYFD neighbors that flank me in the weeks after Sandy. The fundamental issue in the story seems to be poor understanding of tides, as at 5pm when it was getting dark it was approach dead low tide, so getting suck there was quite predictable.
Eddie December 27, 2013 at 09:37 AM
Bob, it's interesting to read your well thought out post. This year, the NY State Police recended all publication of pistol and firearm permit statistics. The numbers I published came from the NCPD Pistol Bureau and represent all licensed pistol owners in Nassau County, with a population of 1.3 million. I know the staff there well. The FBI claims that one in three Americans own firearms; with Nassau far exceeding the nation in wealth, and its proximity to one of the higest crime areas of the nation, a one-in-five figure is quite understandable. Whospackingny.com contains the names of 1.2 million New York full-carry permit holders from 2010. You can probably search that database by zip code if you really wanted to. "That's Interesting" is correct, statistical data has become difficult to obtain during the past year. Ownership is soaring, and it's not being publicized. Being on quite different political circuits, it is interesting to read some of your sincerely held viewpoints and note the differences with mine. You state that there were no AK47 firearms 50 years ago, but you probably don't know that back in 1937 anyone could order a Thompson machine gun from the back of a comic book for "varmint control" and have it delivered to your door. In 1960 you could by a S&W revolver over the counter at O'Rourkes hardware store or the candy store next to the Lido theater with nothing more than $25 bucks, all quite legally. In fact, the AK47 was designed 65 years ago, and million were sold by the US Government to any American who wanted to buy them through the Civilian Marksmanship Program up until 1996. My Dad's came in the mail back then. Look it up Bob, the left doesn't always tell the whole story. You mention marksmanship and safety training. I received mine in a New York City High School when I was 16 years old. I carried my rifle club rifle to school twice a week for practice. My sons got theirs in the Boy Scouts. New York doesn't require any training for a pistol license. The official reason is that firearm accidents and illegal shootings by permittees are minimal -- less than one in one million annually (if you omit police who are much more prone to accidental discharges and shootings). Accidental drownings in swimming pools are perhaps ten times that number. I wouldn't even speculate on auto accidents. Unfortunately, when mandatory safety training is suggested, it is usually a poorly veiled attempt at restricting gun ownership and it is rightfully opposed. I don't own guns to hunt. I don't like hunting. I have too much sentiment for animals perhaps. I own firearms to defend my family. I shoot competitively and teach others. I'm no gun-nut, but I relish my freedom to bear arms. I feel it keeps me free and in permits me to venture anywhere anytime with my wife and kids with little fear. It keeps me from being enslaved or being some second class to law enforcement or the military. Firearms are a part of my and my family's lives. In the hands of a responsible citizenry, they permit each of us to protect ourselves.
Me December 27, 2013 at 05:36 PM
Well said Eddie but the one fact that seems to have not been mentioned is that gun control does little to stop gun crime. I know its a little cliche but if guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns. I am more than willing to submit to a record check when purchasing a gun and eventually to purchase ammo but the criminal doesn't need to. So why don't we just enforce the laws already on the books and enforce the statutes for long sentences when committing a crime with a gun rather than using it as a bargaining chip in plea negotiations
Jack December 27, 2013 at 06:08 PM
I too remember when public highschools had supervised rifle clubs and when hardware stores sold ammunition. Today the public highschools have their rifle clubs on the street supervised by the bloods and crips. Its the leftist metrosexuals, childless feminazis and helicopter moms types who are indoctrinating our children with anti traditional American values.
christie nicolle December 27, 2013 at 06:28 PM
the divine Ann Coulter says: "Guns + crime: guns DO kill people, thank God." Liberals argue that a gun in the home is X times more likely to kill you than to kill an intruder. That never happens...except in suicide.
Me December 27, 2013 at 06:41 PM
Try and find a high school that still has a rifle team. A long gone sporting tradition. Because shooting a .22 in a supervised target match that actually involved skills is way more harmful to our children than hours spent in front of TV playing grand theft auto and a host of other violent games
Me December 27, 2013 at 06:43 PM
While ranting how many high schools still offer JROTC?
Me December 27, 2013 at 06:52 PM
And to continue after Sandy I definately felt safer being armed as there was little to no help available in the early days and no way to call them if there was a problem and that went on for weeks. I think my neighbors " you loot we shoot" sign was a little over the top but it may have made someone think twice before taking advantage of the situation and kept them moving.
moe December 27, 2013 at 07:49 PM
Xavier high school on16th st in the city still has a rifle team and JROTC.
Jack December 27, 2013 at 09:12 PM
Long Beach HS has a rifle team on Azalea ct
Me December 28, 2013 at 09:43 AM
That because Xavier is a military academy like a HS version of West Point but more like VMI since it's private not many "military schools" left either there were many more of those in the past as well god forbid our children are taught things like honor and discipline and that service to your country is a good thing. I know it's completely off the topic of the original post but just following how this thread has developed
moe December 28, 2013 at 05:03 PM
@ eddie - Thanks for the reply on where you got that 300k permit number. I know you only present reliable information. That's why I was curious why I couldn't find that statistic. Part of the answer is crucially important: the government is just not telling us all the information we need to make intelligent decisions. And thanks for more "unwritten" local history. Honestly, the image of Long Island farmers shooting "varmints" from the back of a truck with a tommy gun disturbs me- but no more than the fact that they were using tons of arsenic and lead for weed control. I don't want to take this thread any more off course. But once again, I hope we can find a way to preserve our "unwritten history" before all we have is "newspeak" to learn from.
joesph McCormick December 29, 2013 at 12:02 PM
joesph McCormick December 29, 2013 at 12:03 PM
Laura December 29, 2013 at 12:19 PM
Did Mangano or Skelos rescue them? You may not have noticed, but most of the money spent by government is spent protected stupid or lazy people from their own dumb actions. Most intelligent people have long realized that all government does for them is take their money and spend it on fools.
Me December 29, 2013 at 01:21 PM
@Joseph Mc -- what if it was your family ? Or you were in a car wreck and needed to be flown to a trauma center, would you question the cost? That is a function of goverent to help save lives in an emergency regardless of how they got in that situation
Tideline December 30, 2013 at 08:18 AM
Moe, those hunters did receive Firearms Safety Training, as part of the licensure process when they took the DEC Hunter Education class. As for the comment there were no AK47's 50 years ago, well per usual, the facts are different. The AK was adopted by the Russian Military in 1947, hence the name. It was designed in 1945 by a Russian Tanker, who died at the age of 94 within the last month. It is a sad commentary about our education system that people are so ignorant of history and close minded to the opinions of others. In little more than 2 weeks, the SAFE Act takes effect courtesy of SKELOS and Cuomo, I hope we don't have another Hurricane and resulting break down in communication, Police and other 911 services, since your ability to defend yourself will now be greatly dimished. To date, nothing has been done on the Federal or State level to address our collasped Mental Health system that was the cause of Newtown, only to make Law Abiding Citizens suffer financially and safety wise. As for the comment about Retired NYPD being a large part of the 330K NC PL holders, also not true, they are covered by HR218 and do not even have to have a permit, nor are there that many of them compared to Lawful Firearms owners in NC.
Eddie December 30, 2013 at 09:30 AM
Thanks, Tideline.


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