West End Store Clerks Charged in Alcohol Sting

Two West End store clerks were charged with selling alcohol to minors last week as part of a police sting operation called Project 21.  
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Tulsidai Ramdayal, 58, of Elmont, a clerk at Alabama Deli at 884 W. Beech St., and Song Woong Ho, 50, of Long Beach, a clerk at Friendly Deli at 800 W. Beech St., were arrested and charged with prohibited sale of alcoholic beverage on Jan. 17.
According to the Long Beach Police Department, on that date Lt. Eric Cregeen and officers Paul DeMarco and David Walpole worked together with a 20-year-old agent on both assignments, during which the agent was able to purchase a six-pack of beer from both Ramdayal at Alabama Deli and Ho at Friendly Deli.  

Ramdayal and Ho were each issued summons for violation of ABC Code 65-1, Prohibited Sale of Alcoholic Beverage to an individual under the age of 21.

Project 21 works in conjunction with and is funded by the Long Beach Medical Center's Coalition To Prevent Underage Drinking

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LB Swimmer January 22, 2013 at 04:00 PM
How many bars and liquor stores asked for an ID and refused to sell him a beer? Seems like adding that information would give a truer picture about the West End.
Brendan January 22, 2013 at 04:02 PM
Glad to see this sort of time-wasting BS is still going on while the West End is still full of garbage, houses are still empty, businesses are getting the S___ kicked out of them and things are generally not as they should be. But what should we focus on? That a 20 year old kid might be able to buy a six pack. OH NOOOOO. I'm generally pro-law enforcement but give me a break.
Jack January 22, 2013 at 04:46 PM
Unfortunately they go for the low hanging fruit and arrest illegal alien type store workers who are clueless to our laws. I hope in the spring time and summer we here of a "sting"n for drug sales in the west end bars. In the summer we are invaded by bar patrons with bizare behaviour that can't fully be explained by alcohol alone. Some people have thought there were snow storms inside some of the places. Why in the last number of years there hasn't been any big cases at these establishments? Is it incompetence? Laziness?
Hamburger January 22, 2013 at 05:11 PM
right - we need more businesses out of business on the West End. If these businesses go down, it would be interesting to see which connected parties move in to take them over...
oceanview January 22, 2013 at 07:53 PM
Isn't there more important things right now.
oceanview January 22, 2013 at 07:53 PM
Try it on the bars
cabbage patch kid January 22, 2013 at 09:09 PM
Nice people at friendly deli wish you the best of luck
Taurus January 23, 2013 at 07:46 AM
The most difficult part of this is pronouncing their names. If anyone thinks this isn't important-wait until your underage child or grandchild.....I don't have to finish this, do I?
P.H.Pearse January 23, 2013 at 08:19 AM
Punish the monkey and the organ grinder goes scott-free. What a pathetic waste of time and resources.Add Budweiser to the list of substances in the losing "War on drugs".Why don't we bring back the Volsted act,the ingenious legislation that created organized crime. Alcohol,marijuana,cocaine and other drugs (alcohol is a drug)is not the problem.Addiction illness,lack of education,lack of positive alternatives for youth (sports?)and negligent parents are the problem.
Beachguy January 23, 2013 at 09:48 AM
Big time busts! Our PD at work. Meanwhile cars race along, blow red lights, drugs are rampant. So a couple of immigrants get nailed selling a six pack to a 20 year old. Pathetic. Were the cops on OT at the time? Usually they are sitting in their car at one of the beach cul de sacs waiting for their shift to end. A good argument could be made that it's entrapment anyway. If this was a pattern did anyone from the PD go in and tell them to knock it off? With 40% of the homes allegedly empty I'll bet these businesses are barely hanging on especially in the lean winter months.
SURF DMC January 23, 2013 at 12:58 PM
From what I am reading in these comments, there is concern about how our city officials are utilizing our citys resorces and the peoples tax dollars. It is obvious that city officials feel it is more important to go after businesses that are already struggling from the strorm for selling beer to a 20 year old (who is old enough to die for our country as a soldier in the armed forces and who if he were in any other country would be old enough to drink) than address the real issues our city is facing. I think we should all go to these businesses and show our support for opening so quick after the storm and for being there for our community during such hard times.
Erica January 23, 2013 at 04:09 PM
SURF DMC you are so right. I shop at Alabama Deli all the time and they are the nicest people with a clean store, hard working and I am sure barely making it this winter. I have personally seen them ask for ID! For Pete sake, I wish the LBPD was as attentive to the bars in the summer with the noise, cars racing, urinating and all else in the streets, between houses, in people's yards!!
jvining January 23, 2013 at 04:36 PM
Compliance checks are one of the proven strategies to address underage drinking. There are merchant training programs offered by the Coalition and the LBPD so that store clerks know how to check for ID. Its not about "picking on" a struggling store- its about keeping alcohol out of the hands of kids. Alcohol is the #1 drug of choice of kids today. The brain doesn't fully develop until 25. Alcohol damages kids brains -- their brains process alcohol differently - they tend to be less sleepy, more violent than adults - drink for drink. Kids today drink aggressively - with the sole intention of getting drunk. The US military has a huge underage drinking prevention program going on- precisely because most recruits are under 21.The military has experienced major problems with violent behavior, date rape, suicide - all linked to underage drinking. In our Stronger, Smarter, Safer Long Beach - join with the Long Beach Medical Center's Coalition to Prevent Underage Drinking and help keep our kids safe!
Hamburger January 23, 2013 at 05:02 PM
Maybe "the Coalition" can go after the bars. Oh wait, don't some of them own the bars?
Robert Roden January 23, 2013 at 05:26 PM
Bet the 20 year old "agent" has been chugging down cold ones every weekend for years. These cops are a total joke , and we are the punch- Line. How much are we paying these Barney Fifes?
Beachguy January 23, 2013 at 07:19 PM
If these stores were regularly selling to underage people I still think , in a small town atmosphere, the PD could have informally talked to the proprietors instead of ticketing them and endangering their licences to sell beer. How much did it cost us to pull off this major operation with 3 operatives, OT etc?
Deborah January 23, 2013 at 08:11 PM
Soooo...When it was your 20 year old kid who bought beer from this place and killed someone drunk driving than we could of gone after the guy selling beer. Please support our police force not put them down all the time. I feel terrible these people got caught but do you think it was the first time they did it? Maybe this story will make people in the bars and other stores say hey I don't want to do that because I might get in big trouble and have to pay a huge fine and possibly lose my liquor license...than maybe there willbe a dent made in all the issues all you guys complain about the west end.
Hamburger January 23, 2013 at 08:18 PM
Drop in the bucket as they say - it is focusing on the bar crowd that would yield the best return on investment
paul.d.spellman January 23, 2013 at 08:31 PM
The bars have paid their "tax", these establishments should have and could have kicked in their due. You can be assured they will "contribute" this year and then we will have no more of this silliness in their places of business..
Beachguy January 23, 2013 at 08:43 PM
Cant disagree with you Deborah. See my earlier post about other ways it might have been handled. If after warnings this illegal selling continued then the PD could have cited them .
Tonto Hertzberg January 23, 2013 at 11:24 PM
I started drinkin when I was 9 and have been drunk every God damned day since. I musta bought 100,000 dollars in Pabst in every one of these stores in LB. before I got thrown out of high school.Hell, I was bartending at Shines when i was 12. I send my kid out to get me a case every God damned nite and hes only 6. Next week Im takin him up to the Saloon for his birthday. Let him use his library card to get in, Thats right, Im Boozehound Joe
Hamburger January 24, 2013 at 06:47 AM
Aye - Tis the Ballad of Boozehound Joe
Trying to Make Sense January 24, 2013 at 09:31 AM
"The US military has a huge underage drinking prevention program going on- precisely because most recruits are under 21.The military has experienced major problems with violent behavior, date rape, suicide - all linked to underage drinking." The problem is the utterly ridiculous law that prohibits 18 yo from drinking. And then to suggest that violent behavior, date rape and suicide in the armed forces is driven by underage drinking rather than the myriad other obvious factors that are much more powerful just demonstrates the specious argument this prohibition is based upon.
Joseph Morello January 24, 2013 at 09:55 AM
As if the businesses of long beach haven't suffered enough. Redirect those resources to something useful. Maybe helping get long beach back in business, not taking them down.
SURF DMC January 24, 2013 at 10:35 AM
I support the Long Beach PD 100%. It is not the men & women of our Police force that are the issue, it is the officials that are giving them these orders. I agree with curbing underage drinking, I just think our cities resorces can be put to better use at this time.
Tonto Hertzberg January 24, 2013 at 12:54 PM
Surfie: maybe one of these cops should turn to the boss after getting an order like that and say " Are you f**king nuts"?.............. The LBPD aint the Marine Corp. Sometimes the boss needs to be saved from himself.
Hamburger January 24, 2013 at 02:14 PM
They are lucky - the proprietor of Friendly Deli is a 3rd Degree Grand Master of Wing Chun Kung Fu (i.e. you don't want to mess with him)
jvining January 24, 2013 at 02:20 PM
Money for these sting operations do not come from city resources. Funding comes from a grant awarded to the Medical Center - in part because LB teens are drinking at a rate that is significantly higher than the NYS average.The compliance checks are part of an evidence-based approach that uses many tools, including increased law enforcement, limiting access to alcohol and educating the community that underage drinking is a serious public health issue- not a 'rite of passage.' You can learn more about the serious issues concerning underage drinking by visiting www.notaminorproblem.org".
J.F. January 24, 2013 at 03:14 PM
Good riddance to Alabama Deli! They were charging upwards of $40 for water after Hurricane Sandy.... What a shame. They are NO friend to our city. Be rid of them.
Beachguy January 24, 2013 at 07:36 PM
JF -- if that's true then they should be reported to the gouging hot line that was established. And then word should be spread and a boycott introduced.


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