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City to Revisit 2006 Army Corps Project

Former councilman expresses concerns about resolution on Tuesday's agenda.


The Long Beach City Council is expected to vote Tuesday on a resolution to resurrect the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers' storm damage reduction proposal that a prior council unanimously rejected six years ago.

A legislative note accompanying the Dec. 4 council agenda characterizes the resolution as a  first step after Hurricane Sandy to re-engage the Army Corps to revisit the project and renew discussions, planning and public input on it. The resolution states that nothing in it commits the city to fund the project, although the city would enter into “a mutually agreeable cost-sharing agreement with the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation as the local sponsor in order to construct the project.”

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The resolution comes after U.S. Sens. Charles Schumer and Kirsten Gillibrand in November called on the corp to expedite seven projects — all of which Congress had authorized but were never started or completed — to protect coastline communities from flooding during storms, including Staten Island, Long Beach and Montauk. The senators hope Congress will approve $500 million to $1 billion in new financing for these projects as early as this month.

In 2006, the City Council voted against a $100 million Army Corps proposal aimed at protecting Long Beach from storm damage. At the time trustees argued that the plan was too costly and failed to address potential flooding from Reynolds Channel, and a number of residents, surfers and others said that it would ruin ocean views and negatively impact wave conditions.

“ ... One of the main reasons why the project was defeated in 2006 was because the Army Corps plan did nothing to protect the city from bay flooding, which represented much of the flood damage to the city in the East End and the West End,” said Jim Hennessy, who sat on the council that turned down the Army Corps proposal.

The new resolution states about that proposal: “On May 4, 2006, the City of Long Beach unanimously defeated a resolution to authorize participation in the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers Storm Damage Reduction Project for Long Beach, thus declining further participation at that time. …”

But Hennessy, who expressed concern that the city administration may look to blame the prior council for turning down the corps proposal, noted that Democrats were in the majority on that council, and right after the project was defeated he and a fellow Republican councilman, Thomas Sofield Jr.. proposed an alternative plan.
He said that starting in 2008, under a Republican-led council, the city hired coastal engineers to start Long Beach on a new and better proposal, spearhead by Kevin Mulligan, the commissioner of public works who was fired in January.

"I hope this administration doesn't use this issue to play politics,” Hennessy said. “This is a time for all of us to work together."

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In 2009, the city released a coastal protection study, conducted by the consulting firm Coastal Planning & Engineering Inc., which offered guidance in implementing a revised federal storm-protection program that addressed concerns about the corps proposal.

Among the Dec. 4 agenda's other items is a resolution to amend the existing agreement with Coastal Planning & Engineering to assist the city with Sandy-related damages. Sounding a note of concern about the city’s vulnerability to future storms, the new resolution reports that beaches lost five feet of sand elevation during Hurricane Sandy, and whereas high tide was 125 from the boardwalk prior to the storm, it is now just 25 feet. 

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Pat December 4, 2012 at 07:25 am
Jim.....Why even mention politics at this time, judt let them sit down and get it done,so thsi doesn't happen again
paul.d.spellman December 4, 2012 at 07:57 am
We must also explore the concerns about swimming safety, as well as surfing, about fishing, kayaking, aesthetics -- any use of the beach, And remember it is not just about surfing, we must make sure the powers that be look at storm protection in a different way, which is the biggest success you can ask from any project.
John December 4, 2012 at 08:00 am
What Pat said.
TJM December 4, 2012 at 08:39 am
The Majority of Surfers don't even live in Long Beach. They enter the Beach before the ticket boths open so they don't have to pay. The citizens and property values are more important then a veiw from the Boardwalk and Surf conditions. Why not raise the Boadwalk and make it higher.
awesome December 4, 2012 at 08:48 am
What Pat and John said.
Longbeacher December 4, 2012 at 08:50 am
a lot of water came from canals are we wasting money .rebuild the boardwalk with sectional solid sections ,build storage lockers under that we can rent ,double the fees for non res beach passes ,make new bathrooms that need your beach pass to enter at a $1 charge to your card ,those parking lots the city paid 1000's of thousand for that they rent for $25 a year should be 50 a month with 29 % yearly lottery parking spots for 100 a month they will rent ,AND EVERYBODY IF U CAN GRAB A RAKE AND BROOM AND CLEAN THE FRONT OF YOUR HOME THAT HAVE BEEN PICK UP ALL READY AND DO YOUR NEIGHBOR S IF YOU CAN ,may cut down on flat tires just saying
awesome December 4, 2012 at 08:54 am
"I hope this administration doesn't use this issue to play politics,” Hennessy said. “This is a time for all of us to work together."
Congratulations! You're the first "winner" in the Let's Turn This Hurricane Into A Political Shitsh0w!
paul.d.spellman December 4, 2012 at 08:54 am
LBer, I love the idea of the storage lockers under the boardwalk. Are you thinking the plastic "rubbermaid" type lockers. Those would have been great in this storm, almost everyone in town would have ended up with a new storage locker in their backyard alongside the pieces of the boardwalk.
awesome December 4, 2012 at 08:55 am
(I knew you'd be the winner but what took you so long to come out and start bashing?)
paul.d.spellman December 4, 2012 at 10:32 am
How many people in LB are feeling victorious?
As per the NY Times from 2006 (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9403E1DD1731F933A2575AC0A9609C8B63) our illustrious leaders knew so much better the ACE "Mr. Hennessy and the other Republican council member, Thomas R. Sofield Jr., have proposed an alternative storm-management plan, which includes working with advisory groups like Surfrider, and the city has asked independent coastal engineers for ways to address beach protection. " They proposed working with Surfrider instead of the professionals in ACE? Say what you will about ACE, but in the future if you were going to take preventative measures to safeguard your house and the two options were suggestions from ACE and Surfrider, who would you choose? Here is a recent article (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/04/science/earth/after-hurricane-sandy-dunes-prove-they-blunt-storms.html) where a person(expert?) from ACE discusses the impact dunes had on some communities (Yes the west end dunes were destroyed, but I do not believe they were built by ACE). To sum it up, in 2006 our elected officials would have preferred to engage the surfrider organization instead of ACE. As an added note the surfrider site has been removed of its original content regarding ACE and LB (http://nyc.surfrider.org/programs_beachscape_lb.html) In all likelihood it was done pre sandy, but that would have made great reading The surfrider.org (possible one of their experts) does list "Campaign: Long Beach NY Beach Fill" as "victory" on http://nyc.surfrider.org/campaigns/victories/.
John December 4, 2012 at 10:39 am
Jimmy. stop. please...just stop. there's an air of cooperation and community in our fair city the likes of which hasn't been seen in decades. i've not heard one city official start the 'blame game' you're so afraid of. for the past 5 weeks all politics have been set aside and i'm guessing that most in our community would like to keep it that way for as long as possible. we've not heard a peep from you since the storm. I'm sure you've been dealing with your own losses and impacts and I certainly don't begrudge you that. we're all in the same boat. but please, for the sanity and good of our city. just. stop. it. if you want to work with everyone in a productive way, please do so. but in your first salvo since the storm you're already throwing bombs. we don't need it. please. just. stop.
paul.d.spellman December 4, 2012 at 11:12 am
Jimmy, Where are you? Jimmy? Jimmy?
It appears Mr Hennessy has taken his ball and gone home.
Jimmy Hennessy December 4, 2012 at 11:19 am
Everyone does have to work together. But the fact I the matter is the resolution on tonight's agenda is useless and not true. The city had been working with the army corp of engineer ever since the 2006 plan was rejected. We had a plan on the table in December that would have rebuilt the boardwalk, built dunes and a sea wall, beach fill, new jetties, and address flooding on the bayside. That plan was put on the shelf in January after years of productive meetings. Now, all of a sudden the city drafts this resolution when all the have to do is pick up where other administrations left off. I'm not playing politics, this city is by saying that we "declined further participation" in 2006. It's simply completely untrue. I just want honesty and a plan that works. The last thing people need right now is a political show, I agree. But this resolution doesn't tell the true story at all and what LB needs now is the truth.
I agree, residents have all worked together and have put politics aside and that's great. But this resolution is not honest, it points blame, and its not necessary. People can twist my words all they want, but the truth is the city has had a plan and we should finally implement it before another storm.
Jimmy Hennessy December 4, 2012 at 11:22 am
I am not going to sit back and allow our elected officials to misrepresent the truth at a time when we need the truth.
paul.d.spellman December 4, 2012 at 11:33 am
Mr Hennessy,
According to the NY Times article I referenced above, you are quoted as saying you proposed "working with advisory groups like Surfrider", after you voted against the proposal by the experts at ACE. Our town and its residents has suffered tremendously by this storm. At this time, now more than ever, our city needs leaders. Leaders with solutions, not leaders who espouse the suggestion of experts in their field and opt to work with advisory groups who claim your actions as 2006 a "victory". If you have solutions to our current problems or methods to possibly prevent this from occurring again, our city residents would be glad to hear them. Based on the actions and quotes from 2006 we all know that you probably not capable of that task. If all you are capable of doing is placing blame (or deflecting it as the case may be), you are not helping anyone and your resources would be better utilized by some other endeavor to help our city recover.
AEA President December 4, 2012 at 12:21 pm
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/04/science/earth/after-hurricane-sandy-dunes-prove-they-blunt-storms.html?emc=eta1
To those who voted it down, thanks for nothing
Richard "Keith" Stevens (Panama) December 4, 2012 at 06:08 pm
There is NOTHING absolutely NOTHING that can mitigate the effects of mother nature and a cat 4-5 hurricane sitting on our doorstep.
Despite what might be proposed and put into place we might easily see similar or worse damage. The silly arguing and back and forth seem so trivial and unnecessary at this point in time. Perhaps when your axes are all ground and sharpened you could get around to perceiving what really is a greater need. That need would be working together in order to be of greater assistence to all concerned.
Longbeacher December 4, 2012 at 06:27 pm
no paul i was thinking more of metal fencing the kind that will be there unless we have another storm like this in the next 150 years ,not the white trash ones u r talking about ps surf rider is cali based org ,look what there president makes a year off people thinking there helping ,and check out how much they have sent to the east coast in $ SURPRISE
paul.d.spellman December 5, 2012 at 07:55 am
Oh, I think I understand, you are thinking just some fenced in cage like areas? Would each renter have their own lockable area or would there be one area at each beach entrance for the renters to share?
Mike Charles December 5, 2012 at 10:09 am
STOP!!
awesome December 5, 2012 at 06:26 pm
Jimmy Hennessy Yesterday
"I am not going to sit back and allow our elected officials to misrepresent the truth at a time when we need the truth." WHAT?!!
Longbeacher December 5, 2012 at 09:34 pm
Paul , i was talking about cages ,sep cages with your own lock ,the city will not be responsible for any thing in there $65 for the summer beach ,chairs ,umbrellas ,etc .also when they build the new bathrooms you should have to use your beach pass to get in ( maybe a small charge to use bathrooms ) I THINK WE SHOULD DOUBLE The non res beach passes , we should make the parking lots we paid for that are 25 a year 25 a month with 20 % put aside for a lottery parking space 100 a month your own space for a 2 year time period ,just idea that would bring money to the city without hurting residents or tax payers .and on the dunes ,PANAMA IS RIGHT ,u cant stop a 4-5 cat with anything it comes up from the ground ,sewers and the bay .how do we fix that.next time they say hurricane we get or stuff way up high ,move our cars and pray
Richard "Keith" Stevens (Panama) December 6, 2012 at 06:52 pm
The Office of Emergency Management AKA OEM has envisioned a worst case scenario. This includes a 20 foot storm surge.
We've just experienced an 8 foot surge with Sandy. In a worst case this 20 foot surge will flood the entire area as far north as Sunrise Hwy with water to roof levels of residences. There will be no moving your stuff way up high, just get contents insurance, keep records or write your stuff off as a loss. Moving you vehicle and praying always works though, just move your car far enough and pray hard enough...!!
Longbeacher December 8, 2012 at 08:46 am
why did the office of emergency not envision this storm? i envision a nuclear attack ,what a bunch of monday morning QB ...but u r right on insurance .lets see what they pay ,ive paid home and flood 65,000 since buying my house ,have not seen a dime yet
Longbeacher December 8, 2012 at 08:50 am
seems a little unfair ,when i bought my house ,I bought flood insurance and fire ,now if i get a check ,my back will let me know how much they will give me as i fix my house ,if they wanted to protect themselves ,why did buy insurance ?
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Eddie June 18, 2013 at 02:54 pm
LIRR, huh?
Brendan June 18, 2013 at 02:57 pm
Yes, Eddie, the LIRR. You know, the quasi-government agency that cuts service, increases fares, hasRead More former employees getting busted for fraud all the time? The LIRR. The choo-choo train that has a station next to city hall. That thing.
AEA President June 18, 2013 at 04:46 pm
yes - by sheer coincidence, their employees work more overtime than ever before in their last 3Read More years of employment before retirement (as it so happens, their pension is based in part on their last 3 years of employment).
Eddie June 18, 2013 at 02:55 pm
Great photos, Richard. With joists like those, you could drive a firetruck up that thing!
Eddie June 18, 2013 at 08:24 am
Sink hole repaired by the City by 6 PM. Great job by great guys.
Eddie June 16, 2013 at 09:53 pm
Because the Democrats fired all the engineers in City government and replaced them with politicalRead More friends.
Eugene Torres June 17, 2013 at 07:57 am
Heron St is like a bombed out war zone. Many of the residents drive the wrong way to avoid theRead More potholes at the beginning of the street.
AEA President June 18, 2013 at 06:45 am
Solomon why hast thou forsakeneth?
TJM June 18, 2013 at 12:56 pm
I'm glad I live in the Town of Hempstead No new taxes in Four years. The streets are clean and theRead More storm drains work. I had aead tree replaced for $170.00 byb the town. Read and weep Long Beac
Charlie Cheswick June 18, 2013 at 03:13 pm
"Working" storm drains like the one between Regent & Greenway on Lido Blvd?
RackEmUp Gomez June 15, 2013 at 07:36 pm
I do not have a job for you but the fcat that you are industrious enough to post here indicates toRead More me that you would be a good employee.
tcatrainer June 16, 2013 at 04:15 pm
Look for seasonal summer jobs. Ticket takers at the beach. Depending how old they are, the movingRead More industry is in their busy time in the summer and the pay is pretty good when you factor in the tips.
jacqueline gay June 16, 2013 at 08:06 pm
Thank you for your comments... still looking
Susie Pennachio June 15, 2013 at 09:13 am
yeeeepppp i always see people trying to get thru it or go around it to get onto the beach
Jaime Sumersille (Editor) June 15, 2013 at 12:44 pm
Thanks for the notice, Ally! I posted this on Facebook to make people aware! - Jaime Sumersille,Read More Regional Editor, Nassau County
RackEmUp Gomez June 14, 2013 at 03:55 pm
Those murderers from Boston were students, right? How about importing some kids from Brooklyn thatRead More need help? Lets stop being patsys.
Eddie June 14, 2013 at 07:55 pm
More Patch Spam. Look up any charity on GuideStar and see their tax return. Then you can decide ifRead More you want to support their executives with your contributions.
Eddie June 13, 2013 at 05:45 pm
Sure, John, and the NSA will reply in a speedy fashion.
Me June 13, 2013 at 08:49 pm
What would be the basis for that demand? The govt only has to turn over exculpatory evidence orRead More evidence it intends to use against a defendant and as far as I know in a civil matter (especially divorce) the govt is generally not a party to the action so how would they be compelled to do so?
kevin June 14, 2013 at 04:38 am
Oh oh. I hope some of these attorneys don't snoop around my phone records cause I'm banging theRead More wives of 3 different attorneys and a handful of scumbag politician wives also.i hate politicians !!
oceanview June 14, 2013 at 10:43 am
Did Grace Industries have the contract for the firehouse in the west end?
Eddie June 14, 2013 at 01:27 pm
What is puzzling is a contract that carries no line-item pricing and FEMA legislation that requiresRead More line-item price specifications for reimbursement. I suppose the City/contractor will have to provide this later.
RackEmUp Gomez June 17, 2013 at 11:36 pm
How about the THOUSANDS of illegal apartments being rebuilt with FEDERAL money? Who gives a ratsRead More ass about the boardwalk? Lets get the multi-millions in untaxed cash from these thieving landlords.
RackEmUp Gomez June 14, 2013 at 05:55 pm
I dont agree with all or even most of Harveys politics but there is NO doubt that he is one theRead More greatest benefactors to Long Beach in its history.......maybe THE greatest. When he is gone the Tea Party scumbags that want to kill the sandy Bill in 2014 and also send your flood insurance off the charts will have one less voice speaking out against it.
LI Resistance June 16, 2013 at 09:17 pm
When Harvey is gone we will have less wasted money from the tax payers. Harvey is our benefactorRead More using our own tax money you idiots.
anonymous June 17, 2013 at 01:54 am
You guys still don't get it...yes...Harvey brings back "our" money. But why are he and theRead More rest of the politicians taking it in the first place? These politicians have you so bamboozled that as they bleed us dry you thank them for the privilege of doing it. All they have to do is say "it's for the children" and you take leave of your brains. Unbelievable...
RackEmUp Gomez June 14, 2013 at 09:16 pm
If one of the 17 was your son you may not be so flippant , you moron.
oceanview June 13, 2013 at 11:26 am
Who let these people run the shelter. They looked like con artists right from the start.
andy napolitano June 13, 2013 at 01:16 pm
@BSM if you read the post you would see it tells you to go to a Facebook site called Rescue Ink =Read More The Facts. On this site there is a copy of Rescue Inks's 2011 tax form which is public information. It shows right on that tax form how they only paid 6% of their income for the animals. Also it is in the contract (also public information) with the City Of Long Beach, that Rescue Ink is just "running" the shelter. The building is owned & maintained by the City which also pays all utilities & vet bills. You should do a little research yourself before you question us. We could never put up these "facts" unless they were true.
andy napolitano June 13, 2013 at 06:44 pm
What is the AEA stand for?
Eddie June 12, 2013 at 08:31 pm
Why not ask National Grid to charge me for a Hep Wanted ad for you too?
Kat June 13, 2013 at 03:01 pm
YAh glad you are coming back!!!!
Michael Ganci (Editor) June 12, 2013 at 08:43 am
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Eddie June 12, 2013 at 10:13 am
Is that the $7,000,000 recreation hall for the volunteer firemen? They should be ashamed.Read More Whatever credibility they had is lost now. How about voting to eliminate the vipers and contract with Long Beach? Imagine the savings on your tax bill?
Tideline June 12, 2013 at 05:43 pm
I have heard the Lido Beach Fire House referred to as a social/drinking club for Jewish guys.Read More Everyone is broke, let them make due like eveyone else is trying to do. The Tax Payers should not be stuck with this. Sell one of the Fire District properties in Pt Lookout, problem solved.
Jack Kett June 12, 2013 at 06:00 pm
Yes Lido and Point Lookout should contract to Long Beach for fire service -it would be cheaper- butRead More how is it done? what neds to be proposed? Does Hempstead Council get involved or Nassau County? Lets start the ball running on this.