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Nassau Notebook, Part II: Sewage Privatization, Madonna Takes Over Coliseum

A weekly look-in at the news of Nassau County.

Morgan Stanley to Broker Nassau Sewer Deal

According to reports, Nassau County is planning to sign a contract with Morgan Stanley that will pay the financial service firm at least $5 million to broker a deal for the county to privatize its sewage treatment system.

The Associated Press reports that Morgan Stanley would broker the deal with a private operator and an investor who would fund the transaction.

According to Newsday [paid link]:

County documents show the public-private partnership proposed by GOP County Executive Edward Mangano could net Nassau $865 million -- more than half to be used to retire debt on the system.

The Nassau Legislature's Rules Committee is set to vote on the contract this Monday. The vote will more than likely come down to party lines, as Newsday reports that the Democrats will vote against the contract. The Republicans hold the majority in the legislature.

The Nassau Interim Finance Authority (NIFA) would also have to approve the contract.

Madonna Taking Over Coliseum to Prep for World Tour

Madonna will be taking over the Nassau Coliseum starting next week to build a stage and set for her upcoming world tour, according to reports.

Madonna and her team will occupy the Coliseum until late May, a source told Newsday [paid link]. While the superstar will be rehearsing in Uniondale, there are no plans for her to perform publicly at the arena.

The Philadelphia-based management company SMG runs the Coliseum. According to Newsday:

Cash-strapped Nassau County, which owns the Coliseum but does not collect revenue directly from arena shows, will not receive any funds from the Madonna contract. Revenue will go to an entity controlled by SMG. Charles Wang, owner of the Coliseum's major tenant, the New York Islanders hockey team, participates in the arrangement, the source said.

Private Sector Job Fair Announced

Mangano has announced that Nassau County will sponsor a private sector job fair on Tuesday, May 1, from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. at the Cradle of Aviation Museum in Garden City. Employers from across Long Island will be seeking candidates for all positions, including entry and management level, licensed professionals, and technicians. There is no charge for admission and parking is free.

First Annual Safety Fair for Families Announced

Mangano and the Nassau County Office of Emergency Management (OEM) have announced the First Annual Safety Fair for Families set to take place April 28-29 from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. at Wantagh Park, located at 1 King Road in Wantagh. The safety fair is free to the public and will feature family fun, giveaways and free raffles.

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LongIslandBeachBum April 16, 2012 at 02:25 am
Enough with Madonna. The coliseum is a fight for another day, we're not going to fix it overnight, but the one thing we can make a difference with now is the sewage treatment plants. If the sale or lease of the sewage treatment plants goes through, regardless of what you are being told, you may not see "higher taxes" but you can be guaranteed you WILL see a "usage fee" which will be sizable. This action would be a quick fix for Nassau County, but the damage it can bring will have a lasting effect for years to come for Long Island.This will be passed on to our children, "usage fees" will increase, and left unregulated, there is a very real threat to our beaches and shorelines.Go to town hall on Monday at 1:00, 1550 Franklin Avenue, Mineola and you can be heard and you can make a difference.
Lloyd April 16, 2012 at 03:13 am
Will there be a "Flushing Fee" for every time we finish the job? Can we swipe our EZ Pass if we dont have exact change at the bowl?
Lloyd April 16, 2012 at 03:20 am
It looks like Charlie Wang has his dirty hands on Madonna's rent money.
He has nothing else to do latrly unless he wants to watch the Rangers and Devils compete for the Stanley Cup. How any Islanders fan puts up with that shyster is beyond me. The fans should all boycott the Coliseum until Wang sells it to someone with good hockey sense. He has no clue how to run a successful franchise or build public support for a new arena.
Nassau Taxpayer April 16, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Too bad the editing of legitimate and topical comments smells as bad as the sewer privatization deal. This deal is right up there with the "s-word" deal, right out of the Congressional Record: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/04/28/top-6-moments-from-goldman-sachs-testimony.html
Joe April 16, 2012 at 12:56 pm
Wang is a real-estate developer, that's it, the Islanders struggle just to meet the minimum of salary cap, he is not interested investing in a winning team period!
Now as far as the sewer plant operations I have yet to hear why exactly this is bad, other then those that have family working there. Lets face it the county’s largest cost is the work force and they are not the most efficient bunch at that. Make sure you have enough clauses in the contract to protect the tax payer, that’s in, basic contract management.
An tUasal Airgead April 16, 2012 at 01:17 pm
A Comparison of Household Water Bills Before and After Privatization:
The typical annual residential water and/or sewer bill in constant January 2011 dollars By 2011, after an average of 11 years of private control, water bills in these communities had nearly tripled on average. A typical household was paying an extra $434 a year (or $344 in constant January 2011 dollars) on average for water or sewer service. Under private ownership, water rates grew at an average of about three times the rate of inflation, averaging an increase of 18 percent every other year (see table). http://documents.foodandwaterwatch.org/doc//water_prices.pdf
An tUasal Airgead April 16, 2012 at 01:19 pm
Nassau will choose from among three bidders: United Water of Harrington Park, N.J., which operates two of Indianapolis' wastewater treatment plants; Veolia Environment of Paris, a subsidiary of the firm running Nassau's bus system; and Severn Trent Services of Fort Washington, Pa., which has managed the Glen Cove Water Pollution Control Plant since 1992.
http://www.newsday.com/long-island/nassau/nassau-mulls-private-operator-for-sewers-1.3610456 THE 3 BIDDERS Serious Allegations Against United Water and a Long and Troubled Track Record http://davisvanguard.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4772:serious-allegations-against-united-water-and-a-long-and-troubled-track-record&catid=58:budgetfiscal&Itemid=79 Veolia Has a History of Environmental Mishaps and Other Operational Problems http://davisvanguard.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4775:veolia-has-a-history-of-environmental-mishap-and-other-operational-problems&catid=58:budgetfiscal&Itemid=79 Ofwat today published its proposals to fine Severn Trent Water 3% of its turnover - a total of �35.8 million - for deliberately providing false information to the regulator and providing a poor service to its customers. http://www.ofwat.gov.uk/legacy/aptrix/ofwat/publish.nsf/Content/prs_pn1108_svt080408_proposedfine.html
An tUasal Airgead April 16, 2012 at 01:20 pm
Q. Do private utilities charge more for water and sewer service?
A. Yes, compared to local governments, private utilities charge the typical household 33 percent more for water (see table 1) and 63 percent more for sewer service (see table 2). For several states, the difference is even starker. In Delaware, investor-owned utilities charge 75 percent more than municipalities do for water. In Texas, American Water charges two and a half times as much as the typical municipality for sewer service. Q. Are private water utilities more efficient than public utilities? A. No, private utilities are not more efficient than public utilities, according to a meta-analysis of econometric studies about privatization and costs in water distribution by professors from the University of Barcelona and Cornell University. Q. Does profit motive encourage private utilities to reduce costs? A. No, in fact, profit motive can drive up costs. Because of state price regulation, private water utilities tie higher earnings to increased costs. They earn a rate of return on investment, so that the more they spend on a system, the more they profit. http://documents.foodandwaterwatch.org/doc//A-Cost-Comparison-of-Public-and-Private-Water.pdf
An tUasal Airgead April 16, 2012 at 01:21 pm
Q. Does privatization reduce the cost of water and sewer projects?
A. No, private management of water and sewer projects often increases costs. A professor of economics from Florida State University studied the construction of 35 wastewater treatment plants and concluded, “These figures suggest that choosing the privatization option is more costly than going with the traditional municipally owned and operated facility.” Q. Does privatization reduce financing costs? A. No, private financing generally is more expensive than public financing. For example, over the last decade, even the best-rated, or prime, corporate bonds were 26 percent more expensive than the typical municipal general obligation bond, and medium-grade corporate bonds were 47 percent more expensive than municipal bonds. http://documents.foodandwaterwatch.org/doc//A-Cost-Comparison-of-Public-and-Private-Water.pdf
An tUasal Airgead April 16, 2012 at 01:21 pm
Water and Sewer Privatization Has Failed for Many U.S. Cities
http://www.afsc.net/PDFFiles/Food&WaterWatchonPrivatization.pdf
An tUasal Airgead April 16, 2012 at 01:27 pm
Public-Private Partnerships: Issues and Difficulties
http://documents.foodandwaterwatch.org/doc//p3s.pdf
An tUasal Airgead April 16, 2012 at 01:39 pm
"the Taj Mahal of sewer-treatment plants"
- The sewer bill, in fact, is what cost Pack and her co-workers their jobs. In 1996, the average monthly sewer bill for a family of four in Birmingham was only $14.71 — but that was before the county decided to build an elaborate new sewer system with the help of out-of-state financial wizards with names like Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers, Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan Chase. The result was a monstrous pile of borrowed money that the county used to build, in essence, the world's grandest toilet — "the Taj Mahal of sewer-treatment plants" is how one county worker put it. What happened here in Jefferson County would turn out to be the perfect metaphor for the peculiar alchemy of modern oligarchical capitalism: A mob of corrupt local officials and morally absent financiers got together to build a giant device that converted human excrement into billions of dollars of profit for Wall Street — and misery for people like Lisa Pack. http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/looting-main-street-20100331
An tUasal Airgead April 16, 2012 at 01:40 pm
Largest Municipal Bankruptcy Filed
Jefferson County, Ala., which owes more than $3 billion on a failed sewer deal, filed Wednesday for what would be the largest municipal bankruptcy in U.S. history after a tentative rescue plan with creditors unraveled. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204224604577028491526654090.html
Nassau Taxpayer April 16, 2012 at 01:46 pm
Who in the Mangano administration is in bed with Veolia? And for how much?
Wayne Smith April 16, 2012 at 01:51 pm
Just so I understand the cost comparision data you're providing, I'm making the assumption that these costs are across a range of different jurisdictions or sewage districts, as opposed to what could be described as a "before and after" picture of rates within the same districts. Would that be correct?
Mac April 16, 2012 at 02:03 pm
LLoyd Charles Wang has nothing to do with the county's ineptitude. Regardless of what you think of Wang the person responsible for negotiating a deal where the county owns land but sees no profit when it is being rented should be held accountable. I am sure it is not cheap to rent the coliseum for as long as she is. Does anyone know if the county is responsible for playing all the workers the coliseum needs to keep it running while she is renting it? This is unacceptable our leaders need to work better for us not let Wang or any other businessman dictate terms. No need to worry about the Islanders because they will be gone in a few years and the NC will close soon after,
Joe the Islander do not attract big time free agents. The continue to make offers with big money to get shot down by free agents. The coliseum is a dump and that has nothing to do with Wang. The team is a mess and that has to do with Wang and management. I do agree 100% on your opinion that the taxpayer needs to be protected. Once again the fact the coliseum is being rented out by Madonna and the county sees NO revenue is completely out of line.
An tUasal Airgead April 16, 2012 at 02:17 pm
Veolia must be confident, they have been posting jobs for a "Proposed Business" in the "NYC Metro Area" for at least 4 months.
https://veolia.taleo.net/careersection/extexp/jobdetail.ftl?lang=en&job=254801&src=JB-13806 https://veolia.taleo.net/careersection/extexp/jobdetail.ftl?lang=en&job=295941&src=JB-13806
An tUasal Airgead April 16, 2012 at 02:18 pm
Wayne - The linked page posted above has all the multiple state data and a list of all sources for the information.
Nassau Taxpayer April 16, 2012 at 02:30 pm
It's <wink, wink> in the BAG, with taxpayers being the BAGHOLDERS.
Marge April 16, 2012 at 02:33 pm
Here is what public-private partnerships mean: unaccountable, unelected shysters, usually "not-for-profit" Non-Governmental Organizations (NGOs) get their hands on public money (taxes) and use it for whatever they like. THIS IS ULTIMATELY JUST ONE SMALL PART OF ICLEI and Agenda 21 (or the U.N.'s "sustainable" future agenda), which means most people get fewer services, but pay more for them. There are literally hordes of bureaucratic minions and NGO true believers who are feeding at the sustainable agenda's trough. check out the ICLEI for starters.
Marge April 16, 2012 at 02:46 pm
Left wing-right wing---same bird flying in the same unalterable direction. Voting is just theater so the masses think they're accomplishing something while the one agenda inexorably moves ahead. The people are made to believe they have power by voting the new bunch of bums in as they vote the old bunch of bums out. Privatization is going to happen because that is one of the small peices of the agenda. If private hands control your resources, what do you think happens next? It's like living on the king's land. If the king doesn't want you to have something, you won't have it. If you happen to have it, it's because the king was magnanimous toward his subjects (serfs) and his subjects get to pay an exhorbitant amount for the privilege of having it. It's a privilege you are granted by the king. You don't have any rights as a "person" (which is a legality only). Every time you vote you give up your rights as a natural born human to the legal system.
LongIslandBeachBum April 16, 2012 at 03:04 pm
While I realize you are trying to be funny, this is not a laughing matter. Please take a look at any of your utility bills and educate yourself to what a 'usage fee' actually is. It won't be so funny when we are paying exorbitant amounts and have no control over the damage to our beaches.
Frank T April 16, 2012 at 03:09 pm
Al D'Amato works for Veolia through his company Park Strategies.
Nassau Taxpayer April 16, 2012 at 03:27 pm
Pothole strikes again.
Nassau Taxpayer April 16, 2012 at 03:31 pm
Note especially the fees charged by National Grid since their takeover of LIPA. The word RAPACIOUS comes to mind.
Frank April 16, 2012 at 03:37 pm
@ Frank T. BINGO! We can all thank Al D'Amato. We should pay him a visit.
BTW, Interesting tidbit. The current executive assistant to Veolia's CEO, Susan Piccolo, started at Veolia on 1/2012; Prior to her move, she worked as the office manager for Park Strategies, LLC from 1/1/07– 1/1/12.
Nassau Taxpayer April 16, 2012 at 03:49 pm
Taxpayers being played like a flu... er, Piccolo.
An tUasal Airgead April 16, 2012 at 06:51 pm
From Nassau County, N.Y., to San Jose, Calif., local governments suggested selling or leasing water assets to raise money to help fill multimillion-dollar holes in their budget (see Table 2).
Several cities floated the idea of auctioning off their water systems not because the systems were burdens or liabilities, but because they were valuable assets that could fetch a high price. Because of fiscal challenges, even well-run systems in excellent condition faced possible privatization. http://documents.foodandwaterwatch.org/doc/PrivatizationTrends.pdf
An tUasal Airgead April 17, 2012 at 11:51 am
There was some good news for the Nassau County Sewer Treatment Plants at yesterday's Legislative session; a unanimous decision to ban hydrofracking waste from County Treatment facilities.
The New York State Department of Environmental Conservation had previously identified Nassau County facilities at Glen Cove, Bay Park, Cedar Creek, and Inwood as potential treatment sites.
An tUasal Airgead April 17, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Unfortunately, they also approved the contract with Morgan Stanley.
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http://iflytrapeze.com/ Apparently they will be there for the foreseeable future....
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