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A Safe Solution for Students Crossing Lido Boulevard

Students destined for the Middle School and the High School have the cross Lido Boulevard. I am suggesting safe passage with the help of the LBPD. Check out "The Maple Street Crossing."

If the Long Beach Middle School were a cable TV drama, the cliffhanger at season’s end would have described an encounter between .

The boy was headed to graduation rehearsal on his board. He was strong and purposeful. He was a natural on wheels. He was a member of the Gladiators, the wrestling team. He crossed as he did everyday, without a helmet. On this last day of school, “boom!” he was knocked off his board, unconscious, by a white Mercedes Benz SUV.

As the new season of “Long Beach Middle School” begins, our skateboarder is and no apparent safety plan exists. 

I read in the Herald that Governor Cuomo signed Harvey's bill into law allowing the in Long Beach. While the article mentioned this particular accident, they should have been clear to say the new bill does not help this particular situation. It deals with some residential streets. Anyway, none of us want to drive 15 mph on Lido Boulevard.

The unfortunate truth is that the Long Beach Middle School and the Long Beach High School are in Lido Beach. Long Beach kids have to cross Lido Boulevard and there is no safe way if we have to depend on Nassau County and the Town of Hempstead for protection. 

We need a safe supervised crossing in Long Beach managed by the Long Beach Police Department. There is a Nassau County crossing guard at Allevard in Lido, which is good for students who live in Lido Beach. There is an underlying problem here to be solved. Long Beach cops do not work in Lido Beach but they should be protecting Long Beach’s students. My idea is called “The Maple Street Crossing.”

Maple Street is the Lido Beach-Long Beach border. There is a fire house on the south side and the police auxiliary headquarters on the north side. It is on the bus route.

I propose that the city position a police officer at the “Maple Street Crossing” to control traffic as the cars take off onto the six lane highway that is Lido Boulevard (Park Avenue in Long Beach). The “Maple Street Crossing” would be safe and supervised, just as it is where Long Beach Traffic Police are stationed at the elementary schools.

Parents would advise their kids on bicycles, skateboards and foot to cross no further east than Maple. (The police might remind the kids headed for the middle school on bicycles to put on their helmets -- it is the law, after all.) 

With a Long Beach police officer directing traffic for kids to cross, there will be peace of mind for parents and students who are headed to the high school and the middle school. 

Let’s honor the boy who was hurt crossing at Greenway by asking Long Beach PD and the city council to take up this initiative to keep the students of the Long Beach Schools safe. Hopefully, he’ll be back at the high school before this season ends and crossing with a skateboard will be a bit safer.

Brendan August 30, 2012 at 06:30 pm
I propose looking both ways, crossing in the crosswalk, obeying traffic signals and above all, using common sense when crossing the street. This goes for everyone, students and others. Best part about the plan? It is FREE! In addition, the discipline and lessons learned enacting this plan might carry over to other experiences in student life. Sound good?
Nah, I know, parents just want to hear about everyone else paying to rubber-room the world for their dented copies of themselves to bounce around in.
paul.d.spellman August 30, 2012 at 06:58 pm
Does anyone know how much time in prison the driver of the car that went "boom!" is facing?
John Lately August 30, 2012 at 07:05 pm
No no no! We need to gubberment to help us cross the street!!!
Jeanine Ricioppo Herbst August 30, 2012 at 09:29 pm
How about a crossing guard by the schools
J August 30, 2012 at 09:37 pm
great idea. I agree with your idea. What about all the children who live to the left of Maple? It is going to be interesting having your highschool/middle school kids walk away from the school in the opposite direction to cross safetly. Maybe Town of Hempstead should have crossing at Greenway where the boy was hit.
J August 30, 2012 at 09:38 pm
Also, does anyone have any idea how we can make the residential side streets in Lido 15mph? (not the ones already listed) but the other areas....any help would be appreciated.
paul.d.spellman August 30, 2012 at 10:32 pm
Tacks?
lbpatriot August 31, 2012 at 11:11 am
Proposing children look both ways is obnoxious.
If you open your eyes and watch every resident that blow stop signs and ignore pedestrians in crosswalks. The speed limit is not reduced anywhere on Park or Lido Blvd and while we all teach our children to look both ways, accidents happen. The cost of a crossing guard is ultimately less than the ambulance and lude flight helicopter for one accident. Let's focus on the real issues instead.
Beachguy August 31, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Are you seriously proposing that a LB cop should get out of the patrol car?? ( except to get donuts and coffee).
And if they did, they would have to be trained in traffic laws like speeding, running red lights etc.which they are obviously unfamiliar with. And they would have to learn how to issue tickets to law breaking motorists, something else they don't ever do. Get real. They are too busy studying their pensions and other benefits
Cindy K. August 31, 2012 at 12:58 pm
How about parents teaching their kids to obey the law and traffic rules? This article is rife with speculation and low on facts. The kid on the skateboard appeared at fault. There was no proof of sppeding causing the accident. I see kids jumping out into traffic against the red light all the time, riding their bikes the wrong way on the street. There is an arrogant attitude with those school kids thinking they don't have to follow any rules.
JP Ashcroft August 31, 2012 at 01:14 pm
Great idea! I'm sure Denise Ford will get right on it.
JP Ashcroft August 31, 2012 at 01:21 pm
The bottom line is that children should be told by the parents and other adults how to cross busy streets and should be told of the dangers. We can not provide for every for every type of situation that arises. It's common sense, a 3000-5000 pound car is going to inflict a world of hurt on you if you make contact with it. So avoid that moment. Perhaps a general course of Physics or better yet more gory films depicting traffic accidents that don't go well.
Pete August 31, 2012 at 01:32 pm
Close the schools and lower our taxes. Build an overpass. Close Lido Blvd. Bus them across. Move to the other side of Lido Blvd. Move the school to the other side of Lido Blvd. Or use caution when crossing and obey the traffic laws.
Beachguy August 31, 2012 at 02:34 pm
Pete -- all good ideas but the last one
Stuart Osnow August 31, 2012 at 05:25 pm
Kids go to school at the same time that people go to work. They are crossing a six lane highway. Most of the accidents on Lido are cars hitting cars and cars hitting poles. What intimidates a drive rushing to beat the traffic onto the Loop. Only cops.
There are hundreds of kids crossing to go to school in tje morning and return home after school. A police figure can hold cars back so kids can get across. Parents hoping kids arrive safe likely jump that light as fast as they can. Who of you would cross a street as a car approaches a stop sign with confidence. I tell my kids not to step in front of a car unless you look the driver on the eye, even at a stop sign. The presence of an officer will work for both kids who may be careless and drivers who are in a hurry. The police can do this. If it controls drivers and protects students, that is good. There are so many stop signs and lights on our streets that condition drivers to pause rather than stop. It is especially necessary for cars to stop where kids are crossing. How many ways can I say that.
Mr Dunes August 31, 2012 at 05:45 pm
I agree with your Crossing Guard/Police Presence at Maple Blvd. For students who live South & West of the Long Island Rail Road Station between Edwards, and National Blvds I also would propose a Crossing Guard/ Police Presence at Long Beach Blvd. The cross walk on the east side of Long Beach Blvd would funnel students onto the rarely busy East. Chester Street.
East Chester St. is less congested route for students to walk, or bicycle ride because this street is a one-way street for cars moving west to east, so you don't have vehicles speeding down it to bypass Park's traffic lights and rush to the bridge. Once students reach the canals the ideally safe route is to walk/ride through the canals to Curley St, through the path by the Auxiliary Police Depot (Which is on Maple Blvd), go one block east on Lido, turn left onto Blackheath, and maneuver down to the High School or to the Middle School with as minimal exposure to congested and high speed traffic as possible.
Chantell August 31, 2012 at 05:53 pm
This is a non issue that is being exploited for some unknown reason. Look at the facts very very few pedestrians have been hit by cars at crossings enroute to the schools. Teach kids to follow the traffic rules and the problem will be gone. Tell them to gt their faces out of the cell phones.
Stuart Osnow August 31, 2012 at 06:05 pm
Mr. Dunes. Exactly.
Chantel... exploited, how about suggested? This is not a movement. Just something I feel strongly enough about to write. Perhaps it doesn't matter at all. Perhaps you don't see the chaos between cars and kids. Sure, there are not accidents everyday, but there are near accidents everyday.
BSM August 31, 2012 at 10:52 pm
I think a series of speed bumps between Maple and the next intersection, I believe it is Blackheath, just east of the fire station would force drivers to slow down. As an adult I find that intersection dangerous, even midday. Drivers in this area act as if they own the roads. The fact is kids do dumb things, they fall off bikes in front of cars, they horseplay with their friends and step in traffic lanes, they swerve at random while riding skate boards. So the alleged adults driving the cars need to put down their smart phones, disregard their GPS, stop texting, and WATCH OUT FOR CHILDREN! It is a very simple concept.
Mr Dunes August 31, 2012 at 11:02 pm
Great Point BSM;
I was riding a bicycle home from the beach over ten years ago (before texting). I was trying to cross Lido Blvd when the North Bound Traffic Light was green for me, My bike chain abruptly fell off the two gears and I fell with the gear driving into my leg. I was so nervous that I was lying in the middle of Lido Blvd that, without any hesitation, I grabbed my broken bicycle, carried it up, and dashed over to the Fire House with all of my nervous adrenaline. There was a firemen outside washing his truck at the time. and He asked are you ok, and pointed at my leg, then the trail of blood leading to the Blvd where I was impaled by the multiple links of the gears. To make a long story short, the moment the bike and myself leaped onto the curb the light changed and cars sped right by like nothing happened. If I was travelling and not following the rules of the road, I would have been run over, no questions asked. If this was today, the odds of a driver being distracted by a cell phone, ipod, or navigator would have extremely increased, and I probably would have had a much more traumatic situation than just my physical and mental scar.
awesome September 1, 2012 at 02:57 pm
Yes!
awesome September 1, 2012 at 02:59 pm
You're suggesting that its the pedestrians who need to use common sense. If a driver isn't then there goes that suggestion. Traffic safety is a two way street.
awesome September 1, 2012 at 03:04 pm
Stuart, this is a good article and a great, positive step towards creating safer routes to school. I'm not certain that a police officer is necessary when the school could put together a crossing guard schedule. Using upper class students/ parents, perhaps? Just a thought.
Mr Dunes, East Chester is definitely less congested and being a one-way it is more safe for nonmotorized users. Cars actually speed and avoid full stops at stop signs on East Chester while peds and bikes have their guard down. it's no more safe than Park Ave.
Brendan September 2, 2012 at 01:02 pm
Hey awesome, good to hear from you again, I always enjoy seeing your posts, even if I almost never agree with anything you say. You're a good sport and you've got the intelligence and writing skills to support your position.
In this case, I understand your point. Yes, drivers have a responsibility too. They have skin in the game as well as pedestrians, cyclists, et al, do. The problem with comparing drivers and the less well-protected users of the road is just that. Drivers, in the event of a collision, stand to lose much less than the others. They might get sued, their insurance premiums might increase, etc, but the cyclists, pedestrians, joggers, etc, they are in a position to lose their lives, their limbs, their way of life. The consequences for them are more likely to be more serious than the driver's. If this was a matter of fairness, I would say something should be done to mitigate this disparity. But we aren't talking about fairness. We're talking about real life. Because of that, we need to recognize the reality of the situation and encourage as many people as we can to behave rationally, which means using caution when dealing with two ton missiles being propelled down the road by high-efficiency combustion engines. The operators of those projectiles need to be accountable for their deeds, and they are, but the physical consequences for them will always be lesser than their unarmored counterparts.
Love This City September 4, 2012 at 12:35 pm
I am sure Lido Beach residents would love for Long Beach High School and Middle School to be relocated BACK to Long Beach.
Looking at the situation clearly you have a wonderful suburban beach community with an influx of Long Beach residents daily. There is the trash left behind by the "walking" students, the huge increase in cars every morning and afternoon, the constant demeaning of Lido Beach residents as well. The fact that the majority of enrolled students are NOT from lido Beach lends itself to a new reality. Long Beach Schools should be in LONG BEACH! Then Long Beach residents can hit their own students with their own cars, Long Beach police can protect their own students and Lido Beach can go back to being a suburban beach community and NOT a host to the neighboring CITY's public school system.
Beachguy September 4, 2012 at 01:17 pm
The LB School District encompasses and serves more than the City of LB just as the Fire District does. So don't hold your breath.
Love This City September 4, 2012 at 01:32 pm
What other communities does the LB Fire Department serve?
The School district is Long Beach, Lido Beach and I thought Island Park has an option and Point Lookout also, has an option to attend Long Beach Public Schools. Please clarify if you can....
lidogirl September 4, 2012 at 01:43 pm
I have to say some of you people are on mars. Were you ever a middle school or high school kid. We are the adults and must protect the children of our community. That is what you do when you live in a community. If you have to leave your house 5 minutes earlier to get to work...then do it. This has been going on for 40 years and it seems that every time a child gets killed or hit it comes up. Let's not have another child get hurt. Let's do something now. Kids will be kids and we need a crossing guard or police on Lido Blvd to protect everyone. I don't think you want the blood of a child on your hands.
Beachguy September 4, 2012 at 01:55 pm
I believe LB Fire District includes EAB and possibly parts of Atlantic Beach but not certain. However it's not at all unusual for various districts to have different boundaries.
Stuart Osnow September 5, 2012 at 04:55 am
Yes lidogirl, you will find there are some people who make comments on the Patch that are heartfelt and productive and well thought out and if you read enough, you will meet those who comment on absolutely everything who have nothing constructive to say. Tomorrow is the first day of school. Watch out for the children when you drive.

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