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South Side High School in Rockville Centre is among the best on Long Island, according to new rankings. (Patch file photo)
brookhavenconfucius April 24, 2014 at 02:08 pm
Grace, you live in an oligarchy...It doesn't matter how much 'interest' parents take in school. AsRead More long as there are sufficient numbers, to pay taxes and support the Expensive Day Care facilities, schools have become, that's ALL that matters.
Christopher Wendt April 24, 2014 at 03:20 pm
Parents should simply ignore this whole thing. Taxpayers without kids in school should vent theirRead More frustrations here, but only after deciding what are their own expectations for placement on this kind of a list in terms school tax rate ranking, and, whether or not magazines are proper arbiters of school performance, versus, let's say, the State Education Department, or the colleges to which the students in your district apply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- There are 31,242 public high schools in the U.S. 38% or 11,811 schools were not eligible because the magazine could not find enough data to include them. One of the main factors was AP and/or IB courses, both participation and performance; interestingly, some great schools, like Chaminade, do not offer AP courses, and even if they did, were not eligible because they are non-public, and provide no data to the database on which the list was based. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- How good or bad did YOUR district do? Well the top 100 high schools represents 0.3% of all high schools, less than one third of one percent. In order to have gotten (or to not have gotten) the proper value for your school tax dollars, your school district would have had to have been (on to not have been) in the highest one third of one percent of school tax rates in the country. With 11.3% (14 schools) among LI's roughly 124 Public High Schools making the list, that is extraordinarily and disproportionately good...make that great!
brookhavenconfucius April 24, 2014 at 03:45 pm
christopher, your attempt at distracting posters, with your misleading statements, DO NOTHING toRead More assuage Tax Payers, that their money has been, largely wasted. AND THAT MORE MONEY IS NECESSARY.
monkey lewis April 24, 2014 at 01:45 am
communist core=Obamas whore
Pat Richards April 24, 2014 at 07:04 am
@monkey Lewis, It's not communist, it's fascist. The state and business working together. FascistRead More Mussolini called it corporatism.
DebinRye April 24, 2014 at 08:13 am
Hmmm . . . I keep hearing paranoia from left and right, but how are we to truly evaluate theRead More education we are paying for? Like so many issues that confront us today, there is no light; only heat. No method will be perfect. And, no disrespect intended, but I'm not sure parents are best situated to evaluate the efficacy of their children's education. After all, most were products of the very system we so desperately need to improve. We need SOME objective measure. Any ideas?
Billy Joel applauded and smiled during at the “The River of Dreams: A Billy Joel Tribute Concert” in Glen Cove. Credit: Glen Cove School District
loving lindy April 11, 2014 at 03:38 pm
I have not been on the Patch in some time and see this nice story about Billy Joel and of courseRead More there is a negative comment by "Get Off My Lawn." Why can't you just say nothing. Why need to comment. This is why no one reads the Patch anymore. Everyone gets so tired of the toxic people. I agree with Carol H. Enough already. Nicely done Billy! Now I am officially done with this on-line news thread. So please Get Off My Lawn, educate us all how "you are entitled to your opinion." No one cares!
teena April 11, 2014 at 07:05 pm
so sick of hearing everyone blaming the parents. the show ended, the parents were all leaving (toRead More get back to work!) and billy joel was sitting right by the exit. all the parents had to pass him. the 'mob' that bothered him for autographs was teachers who brought out their soloist along with their parents. he left because half the auditorium was leaving!
Gabe Gonsalves April 14, 2014 at 10:34 am
Billy Joel is a class act.......I know him from my younger days. The man is true to his roots.
The Nassau County Science Competition is set for June 8. Credit: Center for Science Teaching and Learning
Christopher Wendt April 10, 2014 at 07:32 am
Very strange that the names of the officers of the Center for Science Teaching and Learning (an IRSRead More 501C3 organization in RVC) cannot be found anywhere. CSTL is running this competition. WHO ARE THEY? Let me know if anyone finds out. ----------------------------------------------------------------- My other question is, what does Nassau County have to do with education? The answer is, actually, nothing. Nor should they.
Cosmo April 10, 2014 at 08:48 am
It is another opportunity to put Mangano's name on something that he has nothing to do with.
Frank T April 10, 2014 at 09:11 am
An historic building was just demolished at Old Bethpage Restoration. Thank you Ed Mangano!
Photo: @EARizzo57 Twitter
Irish Rover April 9, 2014 at 10:51 pm
Liz, my point is a reality about home values. Not a stretch as you suggest. I know a principal whoRead More invited local realtors in for open houses to demonstrate how well the school was doing to offset the negative publicity portrayed by media. I saw firsthand parents who relocated to another school based on test scores. Parents don't trust realtors, they look on Greatschools.com and see a test score. Newspapers and news outlets report test scores, they don't take the time to break down why they schools score low let alone why they score high. Most parents won't spend the time to interview or do a walkthrough for a public school before attending.
Irish Rover April 9, 2014 at 10:53 pm
Liz, not to beat a dead horse, do your own research about test scores and home values. I think youRead More will be convinced.
Irish Rover April 9, 2014 at 11:18 pm
Disgusted, you are talking about teacher union leadership. IMO Tenure and teacher unions are killingRead More the quality of American education. Be accountable or get out of the profession.
lbpatriot April 4, 2014 at 08:59 pm
You saw the ballot too?! I was shocked. How could they actually say " should we give goyimRead More transportation "?
Hamburger April 5, 2014 at 11:07 pm
You are all meshuggi
Penquin April 6, 2014 at 03:50 pm
Don't worry - soon this will pass over.
Rob April 1, 2014 at 01:22 pm
Very insightful article...I believe this is whats known as trolling. My interaction with the PatchRead More is really waning. Since when is it acceptable to upload pictures of twitter posts and call it journalism?
Lorraine DeVita April 6, 2014 at 01:40 pm
And it was BECASUE of the warm fuzzy teacher that we spent hundreds of dollars monthly for tutors.Read More I would send her a belated bill if she is still around..
yeahitzme April 6, 2014 at 02:18 pm
We all agree what a vital impact teachers have on their students and all of our children...whoRead More surely are the future of society. We all want what is best for all and there is no one exact road or method to get there...adapting and being flexible depending on any situation is a skill that that garners best results...finding what works and building upon that will most likely have positive results. And yes...mushy is definately not the desired method of instruction and yes...those tutoring bills can add up quite fast with the going rate...Unfortunately...my child had one of those no nonsense teachers and that was the subject I was paying those tutors for...A child that shuts down...can't learn...that approach did not work for them. I am sure there is a comfortable middle ground where both firm and supportive instruction can coexist successfully for both teacher and student. I think it comes down to a respect from and for the teacher! We all know it only takes a short moment to tear something down that may have taken years to build up....Teaching is not easy in any regard...but the rewards are great...as Marion accidentally found out on Facebook when feedback from long past students confirmed...she had gotten things "right" in her instruction along the way... Great effort from all involved is required to achieve success in most cases..albeit that natural prodigy genius that is very rare to come by! May we ALL be successful...and joyful...whichever road we choose!
Lorraine DeVita April 6, 2014 at 05:52 pm
Excellent points! Going too far in either direction has consequences...mostly negative. RespectRead More to me must be earned or at the very least in some cases retained , title or position, alphabet soup before or after a name , does not automatically grant respect. The PERSON earns the respect ...... ie- .the OFFICE of the president deserves respect despite WHO is sitting in the chair, the Person who is IN the job needs to earn the respect OF the title.
New York State Education Commissioner Dr. John King fielded angry questions and comments at a Common Core forum on Long Island in 2013.
Commack Resident March 21, 2014 at 11:02 am
My son is a top student in 4th grade. He easily passed the new Common Core State ELA and Math testsRead More last year. This year, he is NOT taking them. I have no doubt he would "pass" again, but, really, is there any real value to passing a meaningless test? He consistently earns top scores on all classroom exams. He reads at an 8th grade level. He has nothing to prove, and I will not allow my 9 year old child to sit through more than 12 hours of tests to prove what we already know...he can read, write and do math at, at least, a 4th grade level. It is not kids like my son that I am concerned about. Other children are the ones hurt most by these tests. Like the little boy we know, who is one of the best math students in his grade, yet gets pulled from the classroom to attend mandatory remedial math instruction because of poor performance on last year's state tests. No one- not his parents, his teacher, or the remedial instructor-thinks this boy needs remedial instruction. Yet, it is mandatory because of a poorly written, ambiguous exam, that failed to test the concepts that the children were taught in the classroom. Many, many students are in similar situations. I am not against standardized tests in general. I allowed my son to take them last year and he performed well. Now that I realize how utterly meaningless the state tests are in their current form, and also just how many hours these poor little children are forced to sit through to take them, I am vehemently opposed to them. We have notified the school, in advance, of our decision to refuse the tests this year. I urge all parents to do the same. We will continue to refuse the tests every year, until the subject matter being tested actually has a real relationship to what the kids are being taught in the classroom, and until the 12 hour-long evaluation is reduced to a more reasonable length, one that 8 and 9 year olds can actually be expected to sit still and concentrate for.
Aidan April 11, 2014 at 10:04 pm
Case closed April 23, 2014 at 08:01 pm
Parents are being told to attend tutoring for common core so they may help their children. If theRead More wheel ain't broke Stop trying to fix it. Case closed
Protesters stand outside of the News 12 studio in Woodbury on Monday to demand Gov. Andrew Cuomo to fix or scrap the controversial new Common Core curriculum. Credit: Monica Gleberman
Aidan April 13, 2014 at 05:56 am
Just trying to educate you … over and over again.
David April 13, 2014 at 02:18 pm
@Elsie I'll grant that it's a hard question for second grade. Students can show divisibility byRead More showing 12 being split into 4 equal parts, and again into 6 equal parts, with a diagram, but I think few second graders would get this right. Any second grader who gets this right is showing unusual mathematical talent, or at least unusual advancement in meeting common core standards. Don't we want to allow such unusual talent to be recognized? Especially in elementary grades these days, there seems so little opportunity for it these days.
Elsie April 18, 2014 at 04:23 pm
@David -- Talent should be recognized by differentiating instruction. Those 2nd graders who can doRead More this should, those who can't should be taught at a level that is more developmentally appropriate for them. There is very little room for enriching those students who should be or helping those students who need it using the Engage NY Modules. I am not a teacher but I have looked at the NY modules and the CC standards. I believe that teachers can address CC standards without the developmental inappropriateness of the NY requirements.
Larry B February 5, 2014 at 07:32 am
Unfortunately, it's not an exact science. We were notified last night that gc may either be delayedRead More or closed today. Then this am, at 5:1, the call came in as a two hour delay with the possibility that the decision could change as soon as they knew. All was dependent on whether the buses could travel safely. Oh well. At least our kids are safe.
Darla February 5, 2014 at 08:01 am
FYI to Patch: You should really list Valley Stream Schools too. A good part of Malverne residentsRead More are in the VS district 13 and HS district 1. Please add that to you coverage.
Heather Doyle (Editor) February 5, 2014 at 01:12 pm
Good point, Darla. Will do.
(File photo)
Sharona Arbeit February 3, 2014 at 10:20 am
As are the Valley Stream School Districts. And Hebrew Academy of Long Beach, and Hebrew Academy ofRead More Nassau County.
Tideline February 3, 2014 at 10:59 am
Weiss Judgement is terrible.
Noway Jose February 3, 2014 at 12:00 pm
I feel betrayed that the LB Schools opened today. My son said he was soaked by the time he got toRead More school. Now he is sitting in class in wet clothes with little to do since many of his teachers were unable to get to work. It is not a matter of terrible judgement, but rather a total lack of leadership which is causing this district to go downhill fast.
Brendan January 31, 2014 at 01:07 pm
The fight to eradicate standards continues. The quest to convince people that achievement and workRead More are not related continues. The struggle for parents to realize that their kids are not all masters of universe and are actually mediocre slobs slogs on, unabated. Some people will spend their whole lives desperately trying to avoid judgment by meritorious standards and some will spend their lives striving to live up to expectations and making sacrifices to achieve their goals. What is truly sad is that the parents either don't have enough faith in their kids to believe they are up to the challenges set forth, or don't love their kids enough to spend the time to prepare them to achieve. Sad.
Hamburger January 31, 2014 at 01:43 pm
Work harder children. Take accountability parents.
Brendan January 31, 2014 at 02:21 pm
The other end of the conversation is how long the taxpayer is or should be willing to fuel theRead More constant and meteoric rise in the budget every year, with zero accountability on the other end of the equation. That there is no formalized, state-wide process to measure teacher performance is an affront to logic. The teachers are probably more afraid of honest assessment of themselves than the parents or kids are of the same. The taxpayer is sick and tired of throwing money down the toilet and not seeing any measurement of what that money gets them and is not able to make an educated or rational decision as to whether or not they want to vote "yes" or "no" for more of the same - or whether they're finally going to sell their house and get out of the madness that is a New York State property tax vortex and stick someone else with the worthless bill.
Max Tunney created the design for the official 2014 All-County Music T-shirt. (Credit: Rosemary Leonetti)
Eddie January 29, 2014 at 09:58 am
Max isn't only talented, he's a nice guy. Long Beach needs more folks like this in its future.
Jerry January 30, 2014 at 08:20 am
Way to go Max, keep up the great work.
Boys varsity swim coach Woody Davis (right) gratefully accepted recognition as he reached his 50-year anniversary as a boys swim coach, as head coach John Skudin(left) looked on. (Rosemary Leonetti)
mike January 30, 2014 at 08:03 pm
I swam for Woody in his first year 1964, my son swam for him, can't believe he's still coaching. IRead More still swim masters here in southern ca. best wishes mike gallow class of 65
Tara Davis Curley January 31, 2014 at 12:05 am
Thank you all for sharing your thoughts about my Dad, Coach Davis. It is humbling to hear so manyRead More amazing tributes to him. I can say first hand each swimmer has also contributed to who my Dad is today and why he has continued to coach all these years. He always says it's because of the kids. So "kids" thank you for all you've given to our family over the years- I too have fond memories of those swim team parties at our house. :)
Michael Mazor March 20, 2014 at 02:33 pm
Wood Davis, "Please sir can I have another" said Matt Costa and wapp on the rump with aRead More kick board. God I miss those days.... I dove for Woody from 83-85.... Great man...... Thanks for the memories.....
Long Beach High School. Credit: LB Schools
Hamburger January 30, 2014 at 06:10 pm
I think it might be too late to reverse the planned course of action. West School for one hasRead More developed the hazing curriculum for all new students. This will consist of, but not be limited to: Noogies, Indian Rope Burns, and Purple Nurples. During week 2, Upside down head-in-toilet swirlies will also be administered. Eating tar at recess will be done only in extreme cases, and only under the close supervision of the older students.
LBMom January 30, 2014 at 07:03 pm
Disingenuous how? I don't have an agenda. I want the best schools. I am not worried about whichRead More builidngs are used as schools and which are used as administration builidings. I don't want a builiding closed but that may be the outcome of this process. I want the BOE to look at all options (not only the ones that repurpose East School) and make fiscally responsible decisions for the future so we can have the best education for the best cost for our students/taxpayers. There were many options presented and some that weren't. I would like to see music, arts and sports for many years to come. I would like our district in the conversation when the best districts in Nassau County are being discussed. Right now, it is not. Additonally, I was led to believe that repurposing the school would save $1million annually, not just once. I had not read all previous comments because I just joined in when the additional meeting was posted. I agree. Whatever is done now is a band aid. The real money is in salaries/pensions/benefits etc. I think what ever is done now will only help very short term. A more difficult task lies ahead. I guess closing NIKE will be the next discussion before we get to the real issues.
Jack January 31, 2014 at 09:41 am
LB Mom is correct. The property values on this island are based on the beach and the bay, nothingRead More more or less than that. The Long Beach Public school system is similar to the the schools in Florida near the beaches. There also seems to be a trend of more single and older adults moving here negating the need for an extensive public school sytem in the future. Don't listen to the teacher's union socialist propaganda about doom and gloom in the schools.
These Long Beach High School students were chosen to perform in All-County ensemble groups (absent from photo: Luc Esformes and Michaela Rynecki). (Credit: Rosemary Leonetti)
Mimiloves January 24, 2014 at 02:18 am
Rosemary Leonetti January 26, 2014 at 08:17 pm
I wrote a whole separate story about Max's honor, since it was so unique--looks like it hasn't beenRead More posted yet, but keep a lookout
Mimiloves January 26, 2014 at 08:56 pm
East School, 456 Neptune Blvd. in Long Beach. (Credit: Joseph Kellard)
Penquin January 21, 2014 at 02:29 pm
Superintendent David Weiss speaking at Tuesday's Board of Education meeting at Middle School. (Credit: Joe Kellard)
Penquin January 19, 2014 at 03:49 am
Jose, who ever negotiated the police contract should negotiate for you guys. They got a greatRead More contract! Greatest respect for everyone involved in education, from cleaners to teachers. Good luck everyone
Jack January 20, 2014 at 07:58 pm
The East School should be closed and sold to a private developer to put the property back on the taxRead More roll. It would be ironic if the MLK center moved to the East school since it would mostly effect all the do gooder type liberals in the public school district who talk all types of integration, affirmative action, diversity and inclusion. But when it comes to their backyard the hypocrite democrat leftist will be up in arms and screaming hell no!
Carly January 20, 2014 at 11:28 pm
CP -- Having lived in Garden City before moving to LB, I can tell you that the district has beenRead More cutting costs -- and staff (including teacher positions) -- for a number of years because of declining enrollment. LB's attendance numbers have been artificially inflated by the influx of Island Park residents; it's a fact that LB's school population along with all of Long Island's, has been dwindling. Secondly, the class sizes at the GC high school range between 25-34 students. Heaven forbid that happen in LB. My parochial school grammar classes had 50 kids, and we all learned because there was respect for teachers, pride in success and no excuses allowed. You are absolutely correct that it is a shame that so many LB parents remain uninvolved in their school community. At GC, parents are expected to -- and do -- participate. LB residents' apathy about education -- especially with our ever-increasing tax rates and ever-sinking test scores -- may signal the death knell for our community.
East School, 456 Neptune Blvd. in Long Beach. (Credit: Joseph Kellard)
moe January 14, 2014 at 09:11 am
LoL. Good point! As you can see I have not paid much attention to the school board elections. SoRead More in that case we need candidates now who can start campaigning for May! And yes you are right and I have said it before , apathy will be the downfall of this great country especially when you yield control to the loons!
Misty January 14, 2014 at 12:17 pm
People can speculate and make presentations for the ideas they think are the best all day long.Read More Until the actual monetary value of any repurposing of a school building is in writing, there is no merit or value to what is being proposed. The school board has never really been known to be visionaries, so I am reluctant to trust their judgment for any movement. Enrollment may be down now, but it is cyclical and we may have enrollment that returns to "normal" in the next five years. Where, then, do we place those extra students?
DreamGirl January 14, 2014 at 01:32 pm
C.a.v.e. people beware of them. Lmao. I wonder do any of you have kids in school now or ever?
Jack January 9, 2014 at 09:27 pm
Why are they called Union Free? Most of these districts are hell holes for welfare recipients.
Bob West January 10, 2014 at 02:47 am
Unfortunately, school lunch programs have often been unhealthy. There's something called theRead More "Commodities" program where the USDA gives free foods to schools and needy groups. It's been around since the 30's. Despite "goody" appearances, the purpose of the program today is to keep certain food prices high. Many of the free foods are downright lousy, and high in fat and salt. Of course, poor schools take more of this stuff. The peanut industry in the south is one that has been "supported" for decades. That's why we all got yummy (but high fat) PB cookies in school. Other foods included depend on what agribusiness wants to profit on. Vegetable oils used to be free until they became an important base for fuel and plastics. Pretty consistently, low-grade unsellable meats have been supplied canned in liquid. You'd never eat the stuff, but it slips by in chili, spaghetti sauce, etc and helps the schools meet nutritional requirements. A serving of this beef gets 72% of it's calories from fat. The old standby peanut butter will always be there for the Southern Senators. Unfortunately, 74% of the calories in peanut butter are from fat. See some of the "commodity" foods here: http://www.fns.usda.gov/csfp/csfp-foods-fact-sheets-recipes
Brendan January 15, 2014 at 01:22 pm
Bob, that is some interesting stuff. I guess if people don't like it, they can find their own foodRead More to give to their kids and be happier with their choices. It is sort of like when people complain that the public housing they live in is in disrepair...well...no one is stopping you from moving, GET OUT!